Annoying wind generator in marina…………………

[Seajet]

I for one would not damage anything; if it could be proven that stopping a rotor damages the bearings, which still sounds ludicrous, then the thing gets covered as well.

I doubt anyone would tolerate a radio being left on, why is this any different ?

It's disappointing that anyone should think anti-social inconsiderate selfishness is OK.

 

[LadyInBed]

Annoying wind generator in marina

Come on, admit it, you are only annoyed because you don't have one

The chap on the boat, 3 down, has his wind generator turning full tilt, 24-7.

Mine is also able to run 24/7, unfortunately the wind doesn't blow 24/7, at least, not enough to make it go 'full tilt'! Even when mine (rutland 913) is going at 'full tilt' it is not noisy.
I wouldn't dream of tethering it, hence the bearings have lasted eleven years and still going

 

[Flying Penguin]

I for one would not damage anything; if it could be proven that stopping a rotor damages the bearings, which still sounds ludicrous, then the thing gets covered as well.

I doubt anyone would tolerate a radio being left on, why is this any different ?

It's disappointing that anyone should think anti-social inconsiderate selfishness is OK.

No it isn't ok, but neither is criminal damage. And it doesn't matter about "proving" that it will damage, it's enough to show you didn't care one way or the other.

To put it simply, if someone (other than the marina staff) interfered with my boat and damaged it because it irritated them without coming to me first, they'd be getting the bill or talking to the Old Bill.

Nothing to do with anti-social behaviour being ok. But a very simple case of two wrongs not making a right, however trite that sounds.

 

[Seajet]

Except I do care very much about damage and wouldn't be causing any...if you were considerate and thought of others I wouldn't be having to approach you or your nuisance, would I ?!

 

[ribrage]

'Clambering onto your boat' would certainly be justified if you are inconsiderate enough to clear off leaving a nuisance; marinas often do this then charge for the 'work'.

I'd suggest you are the bully saying how dangerous it would be to mention the lack of seamanship & consideration to you.

Yachtmaster-sail- 1992 -Chief Instructor - dinghies - 1977-84 sailed since 1970, skipper since 1978. Considerate to others. Various pro' time on boats of all kinds...

wow ....is that your "trump card" you are a dinghy sailing chief instructor way back in 1977 , well you got me beat sail champ ...lol

 

[Flying Penguin]

Except I do care very much about damage and wouldn't be causing any...

Your initial instinct was to just stop it, if you don't have a suitable cover I'm sure you'd still just stop it. Most people would, if they were minded to intervene.

if you were considerate and thought of others I wouldn't be having to approach you or your nuisance, would I ?!

Which is all well and good, but nuisance is so subjective that what one might consider an acceptable murmur another might see as a wholly unreasonable imposition.

There are right ways and wrong ways to go about resolving this, but the puffing out your chest, marching on-board and unilaterally disabling fragile bits of equipment is very much a wrong way. A quick (non anonymous) note or phone call is much more likely to get a reasonable solution that leaves everyone happy and still with enough good will to tell each other if your mooring lines are chafing through 6 months down the line!

 

[Seajet]

Also yachtmaster; I mentioned it as you seem to think it worth doing.

Have done a few other things, strange you seize on dinghies as if sailing more responsive boats is something less.

Funnily enough in any sailing and boat work I've done I've been considerate to others, I've always thought behaving otherwise reflects badly on boat and self; so I leave any boat in a seamanlike state, not looking and sounding as if it was pushed out of a Hercules.

 

[macd]

Gents, please calm down. We had the most sensible suggestion two pages ago: a quiet word with the marina office.

FWIW, none of us is perfect: If I'd carelessly left, say, a halyard slapping and someone stepped on board to stop it, I'd be both slightly ashamed at my inconsideration and thankful to them for remedying it. And if by some accident they'd slipped and, say, bent a stanchion I'd be pretty brassed off: at me.

 

[Seajet]

macd,

agreed; I've said my bit, if people can't understand consideration I'm not going to change them, I'm out of here.

 

[KINGFISHER 8]

So knowing now that by stopping the blades, you could damage the wind gen. You would still willfully vandalise someone else's boat just because it was making a noise?

Unbelievable

If you don't like the noise, get out of the marina

You really are a pompous ass!

 

[ribrage]

Also yachtmaster; I mentioned it as you seem to think it worth doing.

Have done a few other things, strange you seize on dinghies as if sailing more responsive boats is something less.

Funnily enough in any sailing and boat work I've done I've been considerate to others, I've always thought behaving otherwise reflects badly on boat and self; so I leave any boat in a seamanlike state, not looking and sounding as if it was pushed out of a Hercules.

Trust me on the qualifications front, chief instructor front and school principal front i out weigh you numerous times over I just cant be bothered to quote them all and the reason I have them as a signature on here is that it gives me a little bit of teaching work when Im off duty as full time lifeboat coxswain in the North sea.

As far as leaving a vessel in an un seaman like manner are you suggesting that leaving a wind generator in the "on" mode to charge the batterys is un seaman like ? ..........really?..... really is that what you think ?


The supply from the wind generator may be his only voltage generation to run essential on board equipment in his abscence such as lets think ....ummm BILGE PUMP.... feel free any one to join in with this list

Do you really feel that you have the authority to step onto somebody elses property and disable a piece of equipment that you are not familiar with and potentially damage and then to leave an anonimous message complaining about the disruption to your quiet little weekend sat in the marina.

really sea jet is that reasonable ?

 

[ribrage]

No it isn't ok, but neither is criminal damage. And it doesn't matter about "proving" that it will damage, it's enough to show you didn't care one way or the other.

To put it simply, if someone (other than the marina staff) interfered with my boat and damaged it because it irritated them without coming to me first, they'd be getting the bill or talking to the Old Bill.

Nothing to do with anti-social behaviour being ok. But a very simple case of two wrongs not making a right, however trite that sounds.

Absolutely correct , if the marina staff who I have delegated in my abscence step onto my boat with the key I have left them to carry out a safety issue or something similar absolutely correct to do so.

If my neighbour chose to do something because he "didnt like the noise "and damaged my property he would be entirely liable for the damage how so ever caused and it would be quite right for me to persue a claim through the courts if necesary, its common sense.

we have to be tolerant of other people in all walks of life why would the marina be any different ?

 

[Seajet]

A lot more likely you'd be damaging your generator yourself by leaving it running needlessly.

I didn't list my full sailing CV and am not going to be impressed if you've sailed to Mars & back if you can't understand simple consideration.

Out.

 

[rotrax]

so if something on your boat is annoying me I can freely step aboard , tamper with your property damage what ever I tamper with leave you an anonamous message, you feel thats acceptable behaviour and something that should be encouraged ???

you are the reason the americans have the right to bear arms !

Now you are being silly. I often tie off frapping haliards if the keep me awake-and doing so stops them destroying themselves against the mast, or rubbing the anodising off. Its horses for courses.Natural noises we must live with. Wind gennies when the craft is hooked up to shore power is belt AND braces. If it gave me a poor nights sleep I would deal with it, without causing any damage to boat or genny.

 

[snooks]

You really are a pompous ass!

Thanks

You really don't know me

 

[bigwow]

You really are a pompous ass!

He seems to be getting a little cocky since Csail left.

 

[KINGFISHER 8]

Thanks

You really don't know me

No you're right, I don't know you! ... I'm sure you didn't mean the bit about 'If you don't like it get out of the marina' any more than the other guy would really disable somebody's wind generator.

By the way ... I like your photography ... if I meet you in a marina anywhere I shall expect a nice pic ... and you shall have a gin & tonic!

 

[Stork_III]

Thanks

You really don't know me

We are know by our words and deeds.

 

[Wansworth]

Years ago I worked in a marina as a dogs body go for .One day the manager sent me to tie off the halliarsd of yachts as someone had coplained from nearbt houseing.Its quite a long winded effort climbing aboard,undoing covers etc etc.I wrote out the bills for each yacht.Quite an expensive operation for a marina to undertake unless they have some cheap labour!

 

[DogWatch]

Dogwatch,

grow up;

A bit unnecessary don't you think? Why out of the people who made similar points did you chose only to attempt to belittle me?

Though I suppose I should be thankful you didn't threaten me as you did with ribrage.

I don't know what has put you in such a foul mood today, but I suggest you try to calm down a bit before you make a bigger fool of yourself.