Anglers deliberately casting at boats

[RupertW]

Not wishing to start a debate on the grounds of class attitudes, but it does seem a Working Man Against The Rich Yottie perception.

By that categorisation my worst incident could have been called Working Man Yottie vs Rich Owner Yottie.

I was doing some professional skippering between jobs taking a rather lubricated corporate couple out of a day of gentle sailing in the Solent. On the way back in the marina somebody had set up a rod with line from his stern almost all the way to the stern of the boats on the opposite fingers. I made some pointless but loud comments asking my client to move a fender up a rail a bit as, "We are going into the next berth if we can get past the fishing line", then stopped for half a minute to see whether anyone would appear.

No joy so went for it as a thin little line wasn't going to do much harm to us but it did stretch quite a lot before pinging and the rod seemed to make an odd noise. I just asked the clients to sit down out of the way until we'd berthed, and wondered what sort of person would do that in a crowded place.

 

[Lakesailor]

as a yottie I'm a "working man" as well. I just choose to spend my ill gotten gains on a boat rather than in the pub or on fishing gear.

Perhaps you missed the word "perception"
The truth of the matter is often well adrift of people's perception.
I have known anglers and listened to anglers who seem to have an "Us Against the Rest, Brother" attitude to their hobby

 

[l'escargot]

...I have known anglers and listened to anglers who seem to have an "Us Against the Rest, Brother" attitude to their hobby

Not unlike some raggies then...

 

[Danchc]

This is why I believe we should be allowed to fit a 50-cal machine gun to either side of the vessel. Watching anglers fleeing under heavy fire would be very rewarding.

Legality might be an issue, of course, and it might get interesting when two boats get upset with each other, but what the hey

 

[Lakesailor]

Not unlike some raggies then...

 

[Assassin]

Take the 12 bore on deck, shout and tell them if they fire lead at you, you will send some back.

 

[PilotWolf]

Had a couple of rods off piers in the past, last time I think was Blyth. Rather large distinctive 'boat' - never had anyone come to complain

I would think proving it was deliberate would be legally difficult so some own justice might be in order?

W.

 

[Seaduck]

Cars and Cyclists
4x4's and Ramblers
and now Fishermen and Boaters... why can't we all get along?

What I don't get is the mind set of these people.

If your fishing into any kind of water way there will be boats around. Piers, Jetties and Harbour walls are there because there are boats.
Its like buying a house by an airport and complaining about the noise or riding a bike and complaining that there are cars on the same stretch of road... well duh! what did you expect?

Throwing any weighted object is assault with intent to cause damage or harm. Call the police and report it... its no different from those eejits who drop stones off motorway foot bridges.

No-ones cast a line at me (yet) BUT I have had someone fire an air-rifle at the boat made one hell of a CLANG when it hit the hull.

Neal

 

[fergie_mac66]

Cars and Cyclists
4x4's and Ramblers
and now Fishermen and Boaters... why can't we all get along?

What I don't get is the mind set of these people.

If your fishing into any kind of water way there will be boats around. Piers, Jetties and Harbour walls are there because there are boats.
Its like buying a house by an airport and complaining about the noise or riding a bike and complaining that there are cars on the same stretch of road... well duh! what did you expect?

Throwing any weighted object is assault with intent to cause damage or harm. Call the police and report it... its no different from those eejits who drop stones off motorway foot bridges.

No-ones cast a line at me (yet) BUT I have had someone fire an air-rifle at the boat made one hell of a CLANG when it hit the hull.

Neal

found air pellets in our cockpit a few years ago not recently though

 

[pritch]

I don't think the problem is confined to piers

Going down the Witham in the past few weeks I have been confronted with pole fisherman sat on one bank with their poles reaching to the complete opposite side of the river. So I can't even politely/begrudgingly steer around.

On one occasion I was getting closer and closer and they weren't lifting their pole. With nowhere to go I slowed down and gave a quick toot on the horn (assuming the chap was maybe asleep). He stood up and gave me a bunch of abuse before lifting his pole just enough to clear the boat, so I had to limbo underneath it. Which was extremely intimidating to say the least.

On the flipside, the fisherman who frequent the fishing platforms at Five Mile Bridge and near the Fossdyke residential moorings always swing their poles/rods to the side.

...and I'm not bashing fisherman because my little lad loves nothing more than pole fishing off the back/front of the boat whilst we are moored up waiting for the BBQ.

These 'poles' can cost anything up to five grand so there's no need to toot your horn it will be moved believe me.

 

[Golden Time]

These 'poles' can cost anything up to five grand so there's no need to toot your horn it will be moved believe me.

Haha... I later found that out when I went to a tackle shop because my lad wanted a reel to fit the fishing rod that came with the boat. After being picked up off the floor when they showed me a 2nd hand 3m pole for £100 that the man admitted was **** I daren't look any further. Now my lad has a 5m pole that cost £6 and albeit 2nd hand is better condition than the £100 one. He still fishes with it like its £600 worth though - soon as a boat appears on the horizon he has it lifted out the way. But there's nothing wrong with that. LoL.

 

[arahant]

Man i live in canada and i cant believe people would actualy purposefully cast at boaters, i would flip out if someone did that to me. If this is a problem I would get a paintball gun and LIGHT THEM UP, they would learn real quick, or it would just escalate things but it would still be justified.

No one should be worried about getting a hook to the face/eye/whereever when out boating. The original guys story about his wife getting hooked and the guy smirking, i would have rammed him with my boat if i thought he did it on purpose, maby i have an anger problem but stuff like that would just never happen anywhere in all of canada and fishing is fairly big here(and boating).

 

[DAKA]

The original guys story about his wife getting hooked and the guy smirking, i would have rammed him with my boat if i thought he did it on purpose, .

The paint ball idea is awesome

 

[fireball]

... or riding a bike and complaining that there are cars on the same stretch of road... well duh! what did you expect?

Most cyclist just complain that the cars are trying to use the same bit of the road at the same time as the cyclist whilst the car drivers just complain that the cyclists are holding them up ...

 

[fireball]

If this is a problem I would get a paintball gun and LIGHT THEM UP, they would learn real quick, or it would just escalate things but it would still be justified.

The paint ball idea is awesome

Are you thinking of a cabin top mounted canon or just a hand held unit?

The advantage the cabin top mounted unit would be twofold
1) a deterrent - the errant angler could see the object before he cast into the vessel so would know to expect some sort of retaliation
2) power - a cabin top mounted unit could be plumbed into a higher power engine driven compressor - giving higher and more sustainable power ...

The advantage of the handheld unit would be that it was more portable and easier to "install" ... also by taking the angler by surprise (once they'd cast into your vessel) they wouldn't know which boats were "safe" to target - so may just give up the practice all together ... then you'd need to find another target for your new toy!

 

[DAKA]

then you'd need to find another target for your new toy!

 

[PaulGooch]

Just what i was thinking

 

[DAKA]

Just what i was thinking

Have you noticed the guy shaking his fist, just as the wash breaks over him

Captions ?

 

[Searush]

Have you noticed the guy shaking his fist, just as the wash breaks over him

Captions ?

I thought he was on the phone . . .

 

[OAF]

I don't think the problem is confined to piers

Going down the Witham in the past few weeks I have been confronted with pole fisherman sat on one bank with their poles reaching to the complete opposite side of the river. So I can't even politely/begrudgingly steer around.

On one occasion I was getting closer and closer and they weren't lifting their pole. With nowhere to go I slowed down and gave a quick toot on the horn (assuming the chap was maybe asleep). He stood up and gave me a bunch of abuse before lifting his pole just enough to clear the boat, so I had to limbo underneath it. Which was extremely intimidating to say the least.

On the flipside, the fisherman who frequent the fishing platforms at Five Mile Bridge and near the Fossdyke residential moorings always swing their poles/rods to the side.

...and I'm not bashing fisherman because my little lad loves nothing more than pole fishing off the back/front of the boat whilst we are moored up waiting for the BBQ.

Reminds me of the time when I once passed through an angling match on the Shropshire union canal years ago, grumpy anglers everywhere, they often pulled there mighty great pole in and shoved it through the hedge just prior to the boat passing, it just so happened that the local farmer was also in the process of cutting said hedge, I do know that at least one chap ended up with a shorter pole, with all of the commotion that ensued it was difficult to tell who else had there day cut short nothing against anglers at all as long as they live and let live