Ampair 100 real-world experiences?

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In the last year we've cruised from the Baltic to the Caribbean. In general we're quite able to power our boat with renewables - we have 560W of fixed panels, plus 300W in a FLINsail that we can deploy at anchor. In addition we have a SailingGen hydrogenerator (think of cheaper Watt&Sea). However, last summer in the not-so-sunny Hebrides we occasionally had to run the engine to make power. I wrote a little bit more of our energy situation in the retrospective on our Atlantic crossing.
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This, and now sitting in the suprisingly grey and rainy anchorage in Martinique has again brought up the idea of wanting a wind generator. Having a small-ish (31ft) double-ender, we don't really have the space for a permanently mounted one in the stern. At least if we want to keep the solar panels we have there. A couple of years ago we wanted to buy a Superwind, and they actually declined to sell us a unit based on their (likely correct) view that we don't have a good place to mount one.

Then yesterday rowing through the anchorage we saw a potential solution:
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This deployable Ampair 100 would be something we can fit on the boat.
Looking at the production curve, it wouldn't make a lot of power, but likely enough to tip the balance on a grey day.
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And being convertible, it appears to disassemble into smaller pieces pretty easily, which would aid in stowage.

Now, the manufacturer has gone bust ten years ago and so we'd need to find a 2nd hand one. But before I start the search for one here in the Caribbean (or maybe somewhere that is easy to ship to some of our friends in Germany), I wanted to ask for any real-world experiences. How loud is it? How's the power production compared to the official specs? Anybody charge a LiFePO4 battery with one? How annoying is it to deploy and stow?
 
Firstly, I think you might widen your search to include the ‘Aquair 100’ which AFAIK was the version of the Ampair 100 which could be disassembled and used as wind gen’ or towed gen’.

In wind mode it was very quiet and as it’s flexibly mounted (halyard above, 3 triangulated guys below) there was no transmission of vibration to the boat. Power production was probably not far off the predictions but certainly, light airs efficiency is eclipsed by modern units - probably not a problem where you are. It’s a long time since I had mine but IIRC, the Aquair was marginally less efficient than the fixed Ampair as I think it had an extra seal due to also being used in towed mode. As a towed generator, I used to reckon on approximately 1 amp per knot of boat speed once at or above 4kts.

Disassembly for storage is quick providing you can stow the propeller with the blades still on the hub - we used to stow ours upright tied to the pushpit. Top tip is to keep the sockets lightly greased (where the top and bottom struts fit in) unless you’re removing the struts regularly.

LiFePO4 wasn’t thought of back then so I can’t comment.
 
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In wind mode it was very quiet and as it’s flexibly mounted (halyard above, 3 triangulated guys below) there was no transmission of vibration to the boat. Power production was probably not far off the predictions but certainly, light airs efficiency is eclipsed by modern units - probably not a problem where you are. It’s a long time since I had mine but IIRC, the Aquair was marginally less efficient than the fixed Ampair as I think it had an extra seal due to also being used in towed mode. As a towed generator, I used to reckon on approximately 1 amp per knot of boat speed once at or above 4kts.
Thanks! That all sounds very promising.
Did you use one of their regulators, a third party one, or wired directly to battery?

We already have the SailingGen hydrogenerator attached to the windvane bracket so we're unlikely to need to towed generator feature, though of course having it available would add redundancy.
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One reason why I'm asking about LiFePO4 is because we once tried a small Rutland 503 (with a pole tied to the pushpit, this was before we had a solar arch), and it wouldn't get to high enough voltage to actually charge anything.
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I had an Ampair 100 but it never made it on to my boat as I went the solar route in the end. One thing to be aware of though is that they are HEAVY. I don’t know how they compare to other models, but I was very surprised at their weight. I sold mine to an ‘off-gridder’ who I’m told like Ampairs because of their longevity and ruggedness.
 
So far no luck finding a complete Ampair. Treasure Trove back in Grenada had two units, but seem to have misplaced the wind generator bits for them.

Time for plan B, made more interesting as we sit at anchor in windy windy Curaçao. We ordered one of the cheap Chinese wind generators. And now I need to get one of the local metal fabricators to weld me something like this:
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At least the idea is that this should convert any normal wind generator to a rigging-suspended one. I'm installing this with a Victron SmartShunt for monitoring, so I'll post results once we're done.
 
Sorry, I’ve only just seen this.

Have a look at https://www.marlec.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Watts-in-the-Wind-Full-Report.pdf

The test was dated 2010, but I doubt newer comparisons would include the Ampair 100.
Wow, that really drives home the inefficiency of the vertical axis wind turbines.
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The one we got seems to be a pretty direct China copy of the Air Breeze. Still looking for a metal fabricator here in Curaçao to get the bracket manufactured so we can test it.
 
We finally got the manufactured bracket last week. In the meanwhile, we also sold the Chinese wind turbine to another boat and upgraded to an old Superwind 350. After a partial rebuild (the copper brushes weren't connecting), that is now up and producing power. So far we're surprisingly close to the manufacturer's power curve.

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In general the device is very quiet. When it is spinning you can't really hear it inside. In cockpit you hear a very slight whirr, but the Rutland on a boat couple hundred meters away is still louder.
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Will monitor this over the coming days. Interesting to see how it performs. I'll also upload the CAD files for the bracket somewhere.
 
This reminds me I have an 'Aquair 100' complete with spare blades and a stern mounting tubes/assembly gathering dust 'n cobwebs.
 
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