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I understand France is starting to gradually relax some of it's Lockdown rules over coming weeks and sailors over there have been told they should be back in action by the end of May. I suspect the RYA hold the view that the vast majority of it's membership are adult enough to understand the reasoning behind the Lockdown and that things will be allowed to get back to normal as soon as possible without them pestering the government for special consideration.
 
Triassic said:
I understand France is starting to gradually relax some of it's Lockdown rules over coming weeks and sailors over there have been told they should be back in action by the end of May. I suspect the RYA hold the view that the vast majority of it's membership are adult enough to understand the reasoning behind the Lockdown and that things will be allowed to get back to normal as soon as possible without them pestering the government for special consideration.
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We pay then to pester government, on our behalf
 
What’s curious is whether they will let more children of key workers mingle back at school -I’m sure after a period of time more and more key workers will start dispatching the little ones back to school as their patience wears thin with home tutoring. This might be the 2secret plan to develop immunity?
 
ashtead said:
What’s curious is whether they will let more children of key workers mingle back at school -I’m sure after a period of time more and more key workers will start dispatching the little ones back to school as their patience wears thin with home tutoring. This might be the 2secret plan to develop immunity?
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In theory key workers children are still at school, though the take up hasn't been what was expected.
 
Gladys said:
What about the risk if they have an issue and need rescue, and the risks that RNLI/support boat crew may be exposed to?
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Yes I have often thought about that scenario; my thinking is thus - the Lifeboat Crew wear Flotation or similar full dress , also a helmet, so if provided with a suitable mask, they, the Lifeboat Crew are better protected than many front line NHS and Care and Nursing Home Staff ?
So where is the risk factor ?

Guess that its in some minds, sometimes ?
 
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The risk to the RNLI crew is not necessarily from the casualty, it can also be from each other. Whenever they respond to a shout various individuals from different families are dropping whatever they are doing and responding to the boat house, where they will kit up, launch the boat and attend to the call. After they have untangled the lobster pot from around the stranded sailors propeller they will return to base, de-kit and return to their families. Even if it's only a crew of four that's four people who have been exposed to each other, and their respective families, and that's exactly what Lockdown is trying to avoid.
 
ChattingLil said:
As others have said...It's not about you. It's a small sacrifice and hopefully one that won't last forever.

My dad had a minor heart problem last week and was admitted to hospital for stent. On admission he was tested positive for Covid. This was a great shock to him and mum as they've been isolating since well before Easter. Only to supermarket for necessities and gloved up. Sanitizer by the bucketful and handwashing obsessively and washibg everything thst entered the house.

Yet still he's been infected.

It really brought it home to us and reinforces the distancing message.
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Sorry to hear that. You and your parents have my sympathy. Epidemiology is not a game of certainty but one of shifting the probabilities so the actions we are asked to take are not so Much for our own protection as to shift the societal risk. this virus makes the maths harder in two particular respects: it appears that someone, once infected and himself infectious to others will probably not know of his condition until several days later, and secondly a person who has been infected and recovered will not necessarily become immune to further infection by the same virus. The second issue, particularly, makes it difficult to plot an end game.

I believe our UK government was found wanting in terms of preparation in January and February, when the threat was fairly obvious and other European countries were making urgent preparation, but it's too late to do anything about that. Were still not doing very well nationally in terms of testing (lack of swabs, reagents and PPE) but that is due, in part at least, to the late start. The most shocking recent news to me is the statement that nothing will be decided on exit strategy until Boris is back in harness. Has he appointed such a crew of yes men to government that they dare not take any decisions in his absence. The first sign of a strong leader is the qualityof the people he appoints to support himself!

Peter
 
ChattingLil said:
As others have said...It's not about you. It's a small sacrifice and hopefully one that won't last forever.

My dad had a minor heart problem last week and was admitted to hospital for stent. On admission he was tested positive for Covid. This was a great shock to him and mum as they've been isolating since well before Easter. Only to supermarket for necessities and gloved up. Sanitizer by the bucketful and handwashing obsessively and washibg everything thst entered the house.

Yet still he's been infected.

It really brought it home to us and reinforces the distancing message.
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I don’t know if I had it. - have had several of the symptoms twice now.

Only contact with outside world for maybe 2 months had been grocery deliveries- I still wonder....

Doing pretty well again - was violently unwell for a few days. There are testing centres here but I think that’s more likely to raise the risk of being infected as sure some of the people in line will have it!

W.
 
PeterWright said:
Sorry to hear that. You and your parents have my sympathy. Epidemiology is not a game of certainty but one of shifting the probabilities so the actions we are asked to take are not so Much for our own protection as to shift the societal risk. this virus makes the maths harder in two particular respects: it appears that someone, once infected and himself infectious to others will probably not know of his condition until several days later, and secondly a person who has been infected and recovered will not necessarily become immune to further infection by the same virus. The second issue, particularly, makes it difficult to plot an end game.

I believe our UK government was found wanting in terms of preparation in January and February, when the threat was fairly obvious and other European countries were making urgent preparation, but it's too late to do anything about that. Were still not doing very well nationally in terms of testing (lack of swabs, reagents and PPE) but that is due, in part at least, to the late start. The most shocking recent news to me is the statement that nothing will be decided on exit strategy until Boris is back in harness. Has he appointed such a crew of yes men to government that they dare not take any decisions in his absence. The first sign of a strong leader is the qualityof the people he appoints to support himself!

Peter
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imo Boris will throw in the towel & retire " on health grounds" thus avoiding ( if he can ) any flak
Bozo like Chump is surround with "yes" men ( thats how they got appointed )
 
Triassic said:
The risk to the RNLI crew is not necessarily from the casualty, it can also be from each other. Whenever they respond to a shout various individuals from different families are dropping whatever they are doing and responding to the boat house, where they will kit up, launch the boat and attend to the call. After they have untangled the lobster pot from around the stranded sailors propeller they will return to base, de-kit and return to their families. Even if it's only a crew of four that's four people who have been exposed to each other, and their respective families, and that's exactly what Lockdown is trying to avoid.
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Quite right, plus de-kitting will involve hours of cleaning every surfacd of the boat, then cleaning/washing all their kit and helmets as they take them off, then washing themselves and trying not to transfer any virus between themselves or onto their going-home clothes so they take nothing nasty home to their families and all while keeping a safe distance between each other and all the shore crew.

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