cherod
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certainly more densley populated than britain . maybe on a par with london ??But they only have 5.6 million on a 31 mile long island.. hardly even close to a fair comparison ?
certainly more densley populated than britain . maybe on a par with london ??But they only have 5.6 million on a 31 mile long island.. hardly even close to a fair comparison ?
This obviously does not apply to our neighbours dickhead sonWithout getting dragged into another conversation.... I think you need to bear in mind that the vast majorityof law enforcement in the UK is based around what is considered reasonable and this will vary from place to place and according to circumstance. The recent legislation around Coronavirus specifically states that no person may leave the place where they are living without a reasonable excuse, and it then goes on to provide examples including the need to take exercise. The simple question the police will be asking is is it reasonable for you to have to drive your car in order to take exercise? If you live in a significantly built up area where it would be difficult to safely take exercise without exposing yourself to risk of infection from others I would argue it may be reasonable for you to drive to a more suitable location, if however reasonable exercise could safely be had close to home then it may not be?
Thank you, Peter. It is not a question of what sense or lack of that I am expecting, but what we will be permitted to do. For the time being, I am content to stay well out of the way while the NHS practices on the foolish or unfortunate, in the hope that I will be able to avail myself of a vaccine (small chance) or the full attention of my attendants when I become ill.Hi John,
Even though you may not be as aged as me, I would have thought that, by now, you would have given up expecting any sense from politicians!
Peter.
Just a matter of how much time and fuel usedthree miles. 30 miles..
Once inside a car... which forces you to be far more than 2m from any strangers it is Just a matter of how much time and fuel you use.
Just a matter of how much time and fuel used
... and how many road traffic accidents occur.
It's not to stop the spread of the virus, although it may help a little (yes, probably not very much at all), it's more to cut the number of people ending up in the A & E Dept.
Yes, people do have accidents at home, but far less likely to get seriously injured than they are on the road. This is why the police are calling for people to stay at home.
So not only are we risk averse to the virus, we're suddenly incapable of driving to the boat without crashing on the empty roads. The world's gone mad; we're all doomed I tell ye!Just a matter of how much time and fuel used
... and how many road traffic accidents occur.
It's not to stop the spread of the virus, although it may help a little (yes, probably not very much at all), it's more to cut the number of people ending up in the A & E Dept.
Yes, people do have accidents at home, but far less likely to get seriously injured than they are on the road. This is why the police are calling for people to stay at home.
Seems some people can't get their heads around a very simple concept.So not only are we risk averse to the virus, we're suddenly incapable of driving to the boat without crashing on the empty roads. The world's gone mad; we're all doomed I tell ye!
So despite the reduction in traffic on the roads, local news (BBC Essex) still had RTC's being announced on the traffic yesterday
For some reason we've all become ultra-risk-adverse . . .
It will ratchet-up at this afternoons briefingIt seems likely that the lockdown will go on for some time.
The regulations are going to have to be modified to take account of more and more special circumstances.
It seems likely that the lockdown will go on for some time.
The regulations are going to have to be modified to take account of more and more special circumstances.
Not surprised! Doing my daily exercise cycle rides (legal local) I have been passed at ludicrous speeds by cars taking advantage of the empty roads.So despite the reduction in traffic on the roads, local news (BBC Essex) still had RTC's being announced on the traffic yesterday
Not in the slightest. - What we have become is risk aware.
Most people are now aware that there is a very real risk of hospitals in this country being overwhelmed by corona virus patients.
Not so sure about the above. Normally we accept the risks of seasonal flu which largely kills off the old despite the flu jab saving many. Covid has no vaccine, is extremely contagious, unpredictable in effect, has as yet no effective treatments and is killing off the young as well as the old. It’s no use being free if you are dead. Seems to me it’s worthwhile pausing the eco nomy and freedoms for a spell to give us time to develop vaccines and treatments and avoid horrendous world deaths as in 1918 to 1921.Listen to Lord Sumption - former justice of the Supreme court - on the World At One today (Radio 4, 30th March) - around 17m in.
"The real problem is that when human societies loose their freedoms, it's not usually because tyrants have taken it away, it's usually because people willingly surrender their freedom in return for protection against some external threat. And the threat is usually a real threat usually exaggerated and that's what I fear we are seeing now. The pressure on politicians has come from the public; they want action and they don't pause to ask whether the action will work; they don't ask whether the cost will be worth paying; they want action anyway.
Anyone who's studied history will recognise the classic symptoms of mass hysteria. Hysteria is infectious, we are working ourselves up into a lather, in which we exaggerate the threat and stop asking ourselves whether the cure may be worse than the disease."