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Hi Folks,

45 year old guy living 40 miles north of Aberdeen, (between Peterhead and Fraserburgh) always always wanted a boat all of my life and decided that its time.

Budget is subject to what takes my fancy but I have £6k saved and would say between 6 and 10 would be where i am looking.

Usage would predominantly be for fishing and days/weekends boating fun......Not sure if it is possible to boat round to the Caledonian Canal from where I am but if it is then, something that could sustain myself and the wife for a week would be even better, but that is a "nice to have" the real purpose would be a day boat for fishing but with some comfort and protection.

It would be the North North Sea, between Aberdeen and as far round as Inverness.....just really need some help advice and pointers.

I will be booking a boat handling course with Aberdeen Water sports and ensuring that I have all the necessary safety equipment (advice with that would be also helpful).

I do not have a trailer, but own a large caravan and large 4x4 so towing is not an issue.

Not a clue where to look for one in these parts as I am an expat settled down up here after moving up from Norfolk and Essex for work, fell in love and never went back, 10 years later I am still here.

Any help or advice would be fantastic....thanks in advance

Dave
 
Hi Dave,

As a new poster you'll find there's a major delay from you writing something and your posts appearing - particularly at weekends!

If you're after a boat for fishing, I'd guess you'll be looking at a motor boat - so post on the Motor Boat Forum rather than here. The folks on that forum are really friendly and will give you lots of advice.

Good luck with your plans.
 
Hello Dave and welcome.

I think you should have a look at some of the large broker sites like Boatshed, Ancasta, Network yacht brokers and put in a narrow search. Search motor or sail, under 10k and have a look. If you find something that is suitable, come back and ask a few questions about the type of boat. For motor boats ask in the motor boat forum or for sail, try the Shuttlebutt forum

Cliff
 
Aberdeen Dave said:
Hi Folks,

45 year old guy living 40 miles north of Aberdeen, (between Peterhead and Fraserburgh) always always wanted a boat all of my life and decided that its time.

Budget is subject to what takes my fancy but I have £6k saved and would say between 6 and 10 would be where i am looking.

Usage would predominantly be for fishing and days/weekends boating fun......Not sure if it is possible to boat round to the Caledonian Canal from where I am but if it is then, something that could sustain myself and the wife for a week would be even better, but that is a "nice to have" the real purpose would be a day boat for fishing but with some comfort and protection.

It would be the North North Sea, between Aberdeen and as far round as Inverness.....just really need some help advice and pointers.

I will be booking a boat handling course with Aberdeen Water sports and ensuring that I have all the necessary safety equipment (advice with that would be also helpful).

I do not have a trailer, but own a large caravan and large 4x4 so towing is not an issue.

Not a clue where to look for one in these parts as I am an expat settled down up here after moving up from Norfolk and Essex for work, fell in love and never went back, 10 years later I am still here.

Any help or advice would be fantastic....thanks in advance

Dave
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I'd look at the 'Find A Fishing Boat ' web site. Many boats for sale in Scotland on it.
 
Hi, Dave, and welcome.

We've all of us been where you are now, in our 'apprenticeship', so there's a mantra on 'ere that there are NO daft questions..... only daft answers. Those of us who have been around boats a while have had our lumps, bumps and scrapes - and so will you. You can't avoid them all - part of the game - but a bit of seasoned mentoring helps a lot. This place can do some of that, but you'll need a sound measure of sense to 'sort the wheat from the inevitable chaff'. At age 45, you should have that by now - or know where it's to be found.

Speaking of which, I'd recommend you get in touch with RYA ( Scotland ). Their National Training Scheme is unambiguously the best in the world, and the Scottish guys ( and some of the gals ) are up there with the very best. That's a resource you really ought to plug into. Also, go visit a few of the harbours in your area that have a wee marina or pontoons with leisure sailing/power boats, find the local club, and ask in there if someone would care to guide you a bit. Almost every club in the land will be keen to be helpful - like us, they've all of them been where you now are - and you will be made welcome. But you have to 'knock on the door'....

The sums you've mentioned should certainly help you acquire a sound and seaworthy boat - but you will need care and caution, and some seasoned guidance, to avoid the 'dogs'. People have done extraordinary things with some very unpromising boats. Others have done depressingly silly things with truly excellent boats. The difference is in the quality of the skipper's thinking, and energetically-applied common sense and prudence figures high in that. All the rest will come along, bit by bit.

Enjoi!
 
Take a look through boatshed.com ....free to register and really good search tools and loads of photos, ideal to give you some ideas.
 
Being in Strichen, you are ideally situated for Peterhead Marina, which offers excellent and secure shelter at a very reasonable cost. ( That's where I keep mine). Why don't you pop down and talk to the Marina Manager, he may know of boats in the area that may be for sale and there are also regular postings on the noticeboard of boats for sale.
 
My guess is that if you have a caravan and a 4X4 that you would do well with a trailer boat. I also suspect you would prefer a motor boat. Now if that is to be on a trailer you are looking at outboard powered. Modern O/b can be really good and seaworthy.
However it will be a bit of difficulty finding one with accommodation and large enough to be seaworthy but small enough to be trailable. (people tow up to 26ft mobo here on 3 axle trailers but UK may be different) All assuming you have room at home to store a big boat.
Of course you may want to venture into the realm of sailing which has a wonderful element of going for free.
Of course also you may want to moor the boat permanently which has the ease of departure but bugs of lifting out antifouling and of course finding and paying for a mooring.
As for safety gear around here this is mandated. Lifejackets, parachute flares, radio, EPIRB, bucket fire extringuisher maps compass (GPS is better). Plus of course engine spares fuel etc. good luck olewill
 
You are looking for a fishing boat. Forget about sailboats.
Type of boat depends on type of fishing. The kind of boat I would choose for salmon fishing on Loch Tay would be very different from the boat I would choose to head out into the N Sea and fish for bottom fish.

As a lad I did use the same old clinker 16ft wooden boat with a seagull to fish salmon on the Loch on day and Mackerel of Ardnamuruchan Point the next and similar in Loch Dunvegan.

My dads belief went with the other old timers heavy wooden best modern plastic unstable un seaworthy.
My opinion old wooden and heavy. Meant lots of work, leaky, wet, cold, slow and uncomfortable.

Modern plastic lighter low maintenance get their stability from shape and right boat for right job very seaworthy.

My best advice especially if looking at outboard and planeing hull. Spend the big part of your budget on a good reliable motor.
Stay under 20ft ,single outboard avoid twins unless money really is no object Cuddy cabin great.
I had a Yamaha 55 ran my 17ft deep V reliably for 20 years. A days fishing on one full 25litre tank 2nd to get me home. Yamaha do a great 10hp sail drive long shaft excellent for trolling and as backup..
The wind shield and canopy are great especially if I’m a running back against the wind and chop.
My 55 is still going strong it’s a 2stroke not worth a lot I gave it to a buddy who needs for his commuter boat and was short of cash.
I now use a Honda 50 four stroke it has the advantage of fuel economy but is much heavier it also runs on the same fuel as my 10hp 4stroke kicker. I can fish all day on 25ltre. Unless I run far out. Boats a bit small for heading off shore I’ve got to pick my weather. I use in ocean swell and winds up to about a F4 quite happily.
Most fishermen seam to think lousy weather is great for fishing, I’m a fair-weather fisherman I like warm sunny days. I don’t catch as many fish though.
Most of my buddies who guide use Yamaha and swear by them as the only ones which stand up to long use.
A 25 to 27 ft with 150 plus twins can cost up to 600 dollars a day to run just in fuel. Run out an hour maybe 2 and run back. This is why an 8 hr charter can cost well over 1200 dollars. I think the cost of fuel in Aberdeen is significantly higher.
 
puddock said:
Being in Strichen, you are ideally situated for Peterhead Marina, which offers excellent and secure shelter at a very reasonable cost. ( That's where I keep mine). Why don't you pop down and talk to the Marina Manager, he may know of boats in the area that may be for sale and there are also regular postings on the noticeboard of boats for sale.
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Love the fish & chips in Peterhead Harbour...:)
 
Peterhead is perfect for me and really good Marina, I think it works out at about £78 per meter per 6 months, so about £200 for a 21' boat for a year. Trouble is there is a waiting list, I have contacted the marina and they have sent me out of form I need to fill in but the problem is I need to put in the size length and details of the boat and as I've not got my boat yet I've not got any details to put in. But I really need to get onto the waiting list.
 
Aberdeen Dave said:
Peterhead is perfect for me and really good Marina, I think it works out at about £78 per meter per 6 months, so about £200 for a 21' boat for a year. Trouble is there is a waiting list, I have contacted the marina and they have sent me out of form I need to fill in but the problem is I need to put in the size length and details of the boat and as I've not got my boat yet I've not got any details to put in. But I really need to get onto the waiting list.
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Make up a boat of the length you expect to buy to get on the waiting list.

By the time you get a berth, you might have changed your boat :)
 
I was going to do that but they also want Insurance policy number, tonnage, weight, beam, draught.....

would i get away with picking a boat that is going to be similar to what I want and not put down any insurance details?
 
Aberdeen Dave said:
I was going to do that but they also want Insurance policy number, tonnage, weight, beam, draught.....

would i get away with picking a boat that is going to be similar to what I want and not put down any insurance details?
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YES ! Tell them you are storing it ashore at present and will have it insured for going in the water.
 
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