TLouth7
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Not underway, one of my occasional crew smokes but otherwise no, the radio is on the blink so only intermittently
Alcohol and boating
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Not underway, one of my occasional crew smokes but otherwise no, the radio is on the blink so only intermittently
harry potter
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ffiill
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Obviously this hasnt been read down under.
I last commented on recreational boat users in Australia several years ago.
Again this year on the Noosa River in Queensland typically boats would head out down the river some to cross the bar into the Pacific.
Mostly high powered tinnies from maybe no more that 14 foot up to 30 plus foot- semi open- passengers balanced on the fordeck cans of beer in their hand and not a life jacket to be seen.As for the 12 knot speed limit!
Problem is despite strict leglislation and power boat licencing Queensland Police only have as I recall two marine based officers along the length of the Sunshine Coast.
I last commented on recreational boat users in Australia several years ago.
Again this year on the Noosa River in Queensland typically boats would head out down the river some to cross the bar into the Pacific.
Mostly high powered tinnies from maybe no more that 14 foot up to 30 plus foot- semi open- passengers balanced on the fordeck cans of beer in their hand and not a life jacket to be seen.As for the 12 knot speed limit!
Problem is despite strict leglislation and power boat licencing Queensland Police only have as I recall two marine based officers along the length of the Sunshine Coast.
rotrax
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I was speaking to a yard man recently who was, when younger, a pillar of a local RNLI All Weather Lifeboat.
He might have been joking, knowing him as I do, he told me such instances after retrieving a body from the 'oggin were referenced in the report as " FO,FO. "
Fell off, Flies open.................................
RichardS
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laika
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*sigh*. Perhaps an AI might be better moderation? c'mon chaps and chapesses. Look at this account's past posts...
RichardS
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laika
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What's wrong with David's previous posts?
Where do we start? Random thread revival by a non-regular for no reason only raises an eyebrow. So then we look back. The spammers usually start by posting in the book forum or restaurant reviews because it requires no technical knowledge. "David"'s first post of "Oh, I haven't been there yet" on a restaurant review is actually the same as "Denise"'s on the same thread. Then in quick succession we get "Great Place" posts for restaurants at opposite ends of the country. Then we get a whole bunch of posts on non-boaty subjects like bitcoin. References to currency in dollars on a uk forum is a hint. The killer though is if you pick one of those posts you'll see (a) it's edited and (b) contains a hidden marketing link which is the main point of this account.
I suspect that "David"'s post on mattresses (also containing a marketing link) which talks about "My husband and I" is not an affirmation of the diversity of this forum but a slip by an american housewife earning cash for posting spam links. Full marks to her for making the effort to google a list of sailing books in the book review section.
RichardS
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laika
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Where is the link in "stop drinking" above?
There isn't. But you'll notice that "David" goes back and edits posts after a day or two, presumably to add links after they've passed any potential moderation. Doesn't always happen but mostly does.
RichardS
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Ah, I see what you're saying. It doesn't seem a very methodical or determined attempt to bamboozle us but maybe David is rather half-hearted about the whole thing. :ambivalence:
Richard
laika
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....I was wondering where that one came from: it made me briefly worry that I might have wrongly mouthed off about a genuine sailor. But the list is actually copy and pasted from a thread on cruisersforum:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f127/favorite-sailing-travel-writing-books-and-blogs-37214.html#post412749
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laika
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"David" seems to have left post #44 alone but has been at it in the mobo forum:
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?521865-Black-Plastic-window-trim&p=6897071#post6897071
The post was made yesterday, dropped down the rankings, then she added the link this morning. Those links don't show up on mobile until you click them. I think that was one of the reasons why the forum didn't used to allow making arbitrary text links but that restriction disappeared in a software upgrade a couple of years ago. I guess it's time to hit "report"...
[EDIT] Impressively rapid reaction from the Moderators!
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?521865-Black-Plastic-window-trim&p=6897071#post6897071
The post was made yesterday, dropped down the rankings, then she added the link this morning. Those links don't show up on mobile until you click them. I think that was one of the reasons why the forum didn't used to allow making arbitrary text links but that restriction disappeared in a software upgrade a couple of years ago. I guess it's time to hit "report"...
[EDIT] Impressively rapid reaction from the Moderators!
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RupertW
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They’ve gone a bit PC then, in the 80s the term for the state of a body found in the water was FOPO. Flies Open Penis Out
Graham376
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Came across this exclusion in our Y Yacht insurance policy document the other day -
GENERAL EXCLUSIONS THAT APPLY TO THE WHOLE POLICY
1 You are not covered for any claim arising:
1.3 from any act or omission of the person in charge of the Vessel if they were impaired following the consumption of alcohol or drugs;
Unfortunately, no specified blood alcohol limit.
GENERAL EXCLUSIONS THAT APPLY TO THE WHOLE POLICY
1 You are not covered for any claim arising:
1.3 from any act or omission of the person in charge of the Vessel if they were impaired following the consumption of alcohol or drugs;
Unfortunately, no specified blood alcohol limit.
Ohlin Karcher
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Legally that seems easy to pick apart..'following' is different from 'caused by', for starters.
So if you had a pint at lunchtime, then an hour later crunched into a pontoon, who can say if the crunch was caused by the beer, or if it would have happened anyway? And who could legitimately decide which? Nobody.
What is meant by 'drugs'? Aspirin is a drug , supposing you had an aspirin before hitting the pontoon? Or do they mean illegal drugs such as heroin? Or prescription only drugs such as Dihydrocodeine? Or what? It sounds like a free pass to refuse paying a claim on spurious grounds.
I'm with Y and I don't dare to ask for a clearer definition, in case they became suspicious I was careering round the high seas with a bottle of rum in one hand and a spliff in the other..
DFL1010
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Would you be impaired by taking that aspirin?
There are some sporty prescription drugs out there that would certainly impair one's ability to operate almost anything.
Graham376
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I think it's quite clear. If in the opinion of any authorities involved you were at fault and were under the influence of alcohol or drugs, then you don't even have 3rd party insurance - want to personally pay a large repair bill + maybe consequential losses or an injury claim, possibly even by someone on your own boat?
However rare, don't think it can't happen, the PM here made the ferry skipper who hit us take a breath test.
I drink on board but not to the point of being incapable as some do, as displayed by those friends we've seen fall in trying to board a dinghy.
DFL1010
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Out of interest, what if you are hit by another boat and it's their fault, but they've been drinking and are now uninsured? Do you then have to claim off your insurance, losing no-claims? Reliant on the other person being able to pay out of their pocket? Something else?
Old Harry
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I do not believe an ins co can leave anybody without ins.
Say one was driving dangerously rather than intoxicated does that invalidate any ins cover, NO
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