AIS Drift net targets

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Just noticed on Marine Traffic quite a few unspecified "vessels" named as "Drift net keep south" etc, etc, off Dungeness at the moment. Not seen them before, are they just what they suggest? Anyone any ideas?
 

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Not seen them before, are they just what they suggest?

Well, I suppose they could be a sort of hoax transmission, but it seems unlikely. I would take them at face value.

If the nets are going to be out there anyway, broadcasting their location on AIS seems like a good idea.

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Well, I suppose they could be a sort of hoax transmission, but it seems unlikely. I would take them at face value.

If the nets are going to be out there anyway, broadcasting their location on AIS seems like a good idea.

Pete

Agreed, just that I've never seen them before.
 

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Just looking at these on Marine Traffic. They seem about 5miles NE Dungeness then to Dungeness down to off Hastings. A total distance of about 20 miles and about 3 miles off. What a hazard particularly as most are not acquanted with drift nets and it is not always clear where they extend to. Just what you want, a disabled yacht just off the TSS?
 

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I have had to avoid them several times, drift nets with north and south ais beacons on them, with a fishing vessel nearby keeping watch. Always west of dungeness, always lying across tide.

Suprised marine traffic picks them up they are low powered things normally. They are a pain if you ar sailing through the area.
 

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Indeed - so marking them with AIS is an improvement, right?

Pete

Yes having them marked is good however I do think there should be legislation to stop drift nets being set across navigation into harbours, critical routes where a disabled boat is in danger eg inshore |Portland, Bardsey Sound, Jack Sound etc. Similarly lobster pots.
I would not wish to deprive anyone from earning a living but sometimes they take the p***.
 

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I have had to avoid them several times, drift nets with north and south ais beacons on them, with a fishing vessel nearby keeping watch. Always west of dungeness, always lying across tide.

Suprised marine traffic picks them up they are low powered things normally. They are a pain if you ar sailing through the area.

How long are these drift nets typically? Do they use them at night? And are they always attended?
 

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Interesting: looks as though for US$190 you can have an AIS beacon with your own boat details programmed in. Anyone tried?
 

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How long are these drift nets typically? Do they use them at night? And are they always attended?

100-200m, yes, off dungeness they are out at night. They are often marked with a multicoloured flashing light. It flashes red,green,white rapidly, like a strobe
 

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100-200m, yes, off dungeness they are out at night. They are often marked with a multicoloured flashing light. It flashes red,green,white rapidly, like a strobe

OK, so not miles of net then. How about attending fishing boats? Do they loiter about or just leave the net on its own to endanger sailors?
 

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100-200m, yes, off dungeness they are out at night. They are often marked with a multicoloured flashing light. It flashes red,green,white rapidly, like a strobe

I'm surprised it's so short. There was a documentary a while back following some Cornish fishing boats, one of which was a drift netter, and while I don't remember a specific length being given they seemed to wind in miles of it at a time.

In that boat they would lurk near the nets and if something approach they would call on VHF. There was a dramatic sequence as the skipper tried to get in touch with a French trawler that was about to tow through the net. Suspect they probably wouldn't notice a small yacht at night unless it was transmitting AIS, though.

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