Stork_III
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Don't know about 352 but all Frers fin keel boat have one. They are not very visible, on side of bilge stb, but as 352 is encapsulated probably not used.
A worthy invention?
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Don't know about 352 but all Frers fin keel boat have one. They are not very visible, on side of bilge stb, but as 352 is encapsulated probably not used.
Seajet
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Stork_III,
thanks.
Not too sure what to think about it, my boat deliberately has no holes in the bottom at all, loo is chemical, sink is pumped out into the outboard well, depth sounder transducers are internal and speed is judged by GPS and knowing the boat, on long trips I use a trail log.
On a larger boat one has more potential through - hull fittings, even my Carter 30 had 7 seacocks, there was always one giving trouble.
I'm rather keen on fresh water cooling for inboard engines, the rest of the skin fittings can be sorted to at the very least exit above the waterline when the boat is in harbour - not the loo ! Holding tank for that.
There's also the point that skin fittings can be blown out by lightning strikes, making a bad day decidedly worse...
thanks.
Not too sure what to think about it, my boat deliberately has no holes in the bottom at all, loo is chemical, sink is pumped out into the outboard well, depth sounder transducers are internal and speed is judged by GPS and knowing the boat, on long trips I use a trail log.
On a larger boat one has more potential through - hull fittings, even my Carter 30 had 7 seacocks, there was always one giving trouble.
I'm rather keen on fresh water cooling for inboard engines, the rest of the skin fittings can be sorted to at the very least exit above the waterline when the boat is in harbour - not the loo ! Holding tank for that.
There's also the point that skin fittings can be blown out by lightning strikes, making a bad day decidedly worse...
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AntarcticPilot
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I think that most people would see water getting into a boat during the winter as requiring fixing, not providing a way of living with it. There is no reason whatsoever why a modern GRP boat should leak water from above decks; if it does, the mind-set of most of us would be to stop the leak, not add yet another system to remove the water. If my boat leaks - either below or above the water-line - I want to know about it, find it, and fix it. I don't want to fit a system that will simply cope with a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
Many of us don't even have electric bilge-pumps; any water that gets in is about ten strokes of a good old Whale Gusher pump, about once a month - or even less frequently.
I can only see a system like this having a real use on an old boat without a self-draining cockpit, or a wooden boat, where there may well be unstoppable leaks.
Many of us don't even have electric bilge-pumps; any water that gets in is about ten strokes of a good old Whale Gusher pump, about once a month - or even less frequently.
I can only see a system like this having a real use on an old boat without a self-draining cockpit, or a wooden boat, where there may well be unstoppable leaks.
jamie N
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apologise for the mystique but I may have to patent this if there’s any interest – feel free to ask questions im interested to hear your thoughts.
Unfortunately, your idea of patenting the 'invention' is almost certainly sunk (apologies) as the 'device' is now in the public domain. I reckon that a patent application could be compromised if you were to proceed.
Unfortunately, your idea of patenting the 'invention' is almost certainly sunk (apologies) as the 'device' is now in the public domain. I reckon that a patent application could be compromised if you were to proceed.
ianj99
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Great feedback guys - cheers!
You all seem like a conscientious lot with regards to maintenance and I salute that - prevention IS better than cure!
So, Am I still deluding myself on a hopeless crusade because Im blinded by my bias? Or does some of what I said have some merit among you wise old sea dogs??
I encourage the imminent onslaught!!!
The British disease is alive and thriving on this forum. Scoff, laugh & general negativity are just some of the many symptoms. No wonder we don't make anything in this country.
The next step is to ask a few boat owners if they'd try your device (after having them sign a confidentiality agreement). If their feedback is good, then perhaps you'd be taken more seriously, but I'd not put money on it!
Ian
prv
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I guess he can no longer claim the idea of using rain to power a bilge pump - but apart from that he has told us nothing about his device. This does of course make it rather difficult for us to evaluate it as asked - all we're able to do without knowing what he's proposing is to point out that there isn't any need for it.
Pete
jamie N
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Indeed, you're correct, the word "could" is very broad here, but any decent patent is already an extremely difficult claim as an exclusive intellectual property I believe, without having had any exposure in public domain.
Coaster
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PhillM
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Not just GRP! I'm working hard to make sure my old wooden one doesn't either! No reason it should other than poor maintainence.
As someone previous said, if its such a problem then you need to fix it. After all you cannot just cover her up at the pontoon or when out sailing. So what you going to do when it rains (run round with an umbrella?).
Seajet
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I'm pretty sure ' synch ' is correct, though I forget where I got it from; may even be a local thing.
prv
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That's short for "synchronise". The word we want is a corruption of "sinecure", so I wouldn't expect any Ys in there.
Pete
ianj99
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Cinch
cinch (snch)
n.
1. A girth for a pack or saddle.
2. A firm grip.
3. Something easy to accomplish
Seajet
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Pete,
no, when short for synchronise it's pronounced as in ' sink '.
This is a synch is pronounced as in ' sinch ' but is spelt with a Y, but one sinches up rope tackles !
Isn't English wonderful, it always amazes me that any Johnny Foreigner manages it at all.
no, when short for synchronise it's pronounced as in ' sink '.
This is a synch is pronounced as in ' sinch ' but is spelt with a Y, but one sinches up rope tackles !
Isn't English wonderful, it always amazes me that any Johnny Foreigner manages it at all.
jamie N
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In truth, as a boy brought up in the USA, I always thought that it was American slang "cinch", for easy?
Seajet
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Jamie N,
you could well be right.
you could well be right.
jamie N
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stu22uk
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Quite astonishing watching this all unfold. I wish I had just typed "easy"! Ian has it though... http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cinch I do find myself agreeing with everything he has said so far!
The most amusing part though is the original "correction" turned out to be erroneous! Have Merci on Nigel though, he may feel like an idiom!
jamie N
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stu22uk, you've made me happy! It was 45+ years since I learnt that word (I think). Looks like alzheimers (whatever that is?) isn't here yet. However, the topic has roamed a heck of a long way away from whatever it was in the beginning....
PhillM
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However, the topic has roamed a heck of a long way away from whatever it was in the beginning....
A sales pitch. Not a good way to join a forum.
I'm all for invention, British ideas and engineering but to make your first post a sales pitch really is poor marketing.
I still don't know what you are trying to sell but I do know I don't need it.
If that is valuable feedback and it stops you spending 1000's trying to launch an un-needed product then I guess we have been helpful. But if you were looking for customers this is not they way to do it.
johnphilip
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Quick, Seajet needs help, never seen him post anything like this!
