A safe Harbour in a Storm

[MapisM]

Re: Adds to sanity?

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Let's not go over the top here. I was not having a rant. I said the post was stupid, which it is. I dont see that as mortally wounding gludy.

[/ QUOTE ]Well, I guess I might be seen as gludy's advocate now, which is neither my intention nor something he needs.
Maybe you didn't want to have a rant, but I for one perceived it that way.
See, as a matter of fact, there were 20 posts before yours, openly debating the subject.
After your post, almost 40 other posts followed (as of now).
Maybe the thread was already totally stupid in the first 20 posts, but imho also most of those who followed were neither smart nor interesting for good...
And since probably my own posts are no exception in this respect, I guess I'll kiss you all good night!
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[Gludy]

Re: gludy

I disagree about the pack but it does not matter.

At last you discuss the subject - congratulations.

So you state there is no law - it does seem that way.

However the thread has thrown up a query over some ports overseas and that is a legitimate concern for everyone to not assume that all ports are the same.

I would say it insane to tow a MoBo with engines not working, by force, against the wishes of the skipper out of a harbour to be dumped outside does not fit with the types of harbour you describe.

 

[Gludy]

Re: gludy

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You are being devious. If you've been cross examined, you have a particular court case in mind? Which unwritten law are you referring to?


Just be honest, and you might get some decent answers, rather than all the gibberish.

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I do not understand a word of what you say except the flavour is paranoid.

I have no court case in mind. I know of no court case.

I repeat my question was so simple and direct and your response above is almost unbelievable.

I am off to bed.

Goodnight and may all your dreams take place in safe harbours. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Beadle]

Re: gludy

Lost interest in this nonsense.

Talking sense is clearly wasted.

OK

There isn't a law that says a harbour master has to let you enter his harbour

There!!

Very clear

Now what are you going to do about it

Maybe you should take up a different pastime just in case

That would be a relief to many of us

Don't call us - we'll call you

 

[hlb]

Re: gludy

To carry on with the the stupid questions. Wheres the law about going down the M1, M2 ,M3 four or five. We dont ask because we all can, less it's broken. Even then they give a free tow.

The question is stupid. Because it first of all assumes that a harbour master is going to do something stupid which he has little ability to do anyway and no sane person would force some one to stay out at sea.

The whole thread is lunacy. I just joined in to add sence.

 

[Gludy]

Re: gludy

Hlb
To ask a question to see if there is a law governing the rights of a boat at sea to take shelter from a storm in a harbour is not stupid.

The last thing you did was add sense.

Your entire approach to this is beyond belief.

1. Your analogy is also not sensible. We all know that if we pay our road tax we can drive onto the M4 but that does not give us the right to drive onto private property for example. Manmy marinas/ports can be private. Many can be commercial only etc.

2. There are many things in life that have laws governing our rights - in fact thousands of things - these laws bestow rights or remove them.

You are acting so biased that you cannot even see it. You are saying that to ask if there is a law governing this or that is stupid!!

So answer this - did that marina that towed the MoBo outside the harbour and dumped him there without engine power acting within your law? Would you trust them to let you in in a storm? Others state on this thread that they know of ports that have refused - so was that not worthy of discussion.

You harm the forum by discouraging questions - I never go onto your threads and disrupt them - even if I think they are sometimes stupid, I just leave you alone.

If I was lurking on this forum I would stay clear because you and a few others behave in this deplorable manner.

As a person I do not give in and I very much like asking questions and learning. I can also separate the questions from the person and discuss the subject without making assumptions. Its seems you find this process very difficult.

Thank you for disrupting a peaceful thread that was trundling along all Ok on its own without agro from anyone until you stick your oar in.

I am sorry if those relating stories about a boat not getting into a harbour and being wrcked and a boat being dragged out of a harbour to be dumped were not sensible points top make because the question was stupid. I suppose those that found such responses interesting like I did must be stupid in your eyes.

Also I was accused of trying to turn the thread into as mega Gludy thread - nothing could be further from the truth - it was all peaceful until you came along. What then happened is instead of a discussion on the subject of the thread there is an explosion as some other idiots join you in the hunting pack - even accusing me of being devious and something about a court case - all total madness.

Many would just not bother to answer you and would abandon when hlb and gang move in but I do not give in. I will not let you get away with it.

You have revealed to all in your clear statement that my question was stupid and that you bring sense to the proceedings just how off track you are ..... please get a life.

 

[hlb]

Re: gludy

And you will carry on and on and on and on and on. Till everyones lost the will to live.

The End

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

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somehow I don't think this would happen in the UK - or am I dreaming?


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Yes I think you're right. My experience is that staff at UK marinas and harbours are more helpful than Med marina staff. I don't think what happened to me would have happened in the UK. They would have tried to help me out, I hope. It's a result of the pressure on berths in the Med. Many Med marinas can sell or rent their berths many times over so they don't give a [--word removed--] about anyone, particularly short term visitors