69 immigrants attempt to enter Lowestoft

[Dogone]

Same crew that brought them here.

The people smugglers you refused to arrest! You think they will agree to smuggle them back? You think the ‘customers‘ will agree?! That the French will be understanding?! That it would ever happen? !

 

[PaulRainbow]

The people smugglers you refused to arrest! You think they will agree to smuggle them back? You think the ‘customers‘ will agree?! That the French will be understanding?! That it would ever happen? !

Perhaps we should put them up in a hotel, or give them a council house ? Pay them some benefits ? Perhaps buy them a car, like we did when Poland joined the EU.

We'll end up letting them stay, we'll prosecute the three crew and send them to prison, where we'll have to pay to keep them too. Meanwhile, the people the smugglers worked for will find some more "crew" and send us some more immigrants.

 

[Juan Twothree]

Perhaps buy them a car, like we did when Poland joined the EU.

Really?

 

[Dogone]

Perhaps we should put them up in a hotel, or give them a council house ? Pay them some benefits ? Perhaps buy them a car, like we did when Poland joined the EU.

We'll end up letting them stay, we'll prosecute the three crew and send them to prison, where we'll have to pay to keep them too. Meanwhile, the people the smugglers worked for will find some more "crew" and send us some more immigrants.

I think you need to come up with a better solution than that.

Australia found a good solution in my opinion. It requires a breach of UN treaties though and that is something not many in Britain have the guts to do. It will be as hard to achieve as leaving the EU due to the very same built in resistance to independence within our institutions and leadership.

 

[Tomahawk]

I like the idea of processing asylum applications on Ascension. Absolutely no chance of disappearing in to the illegal economy. If anyone fails an application they simply stay on Ascension until they decide where they want to be taken to.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Really?

Yes, really. I don't know what the criteria was, but at least some of them were getting £2k for a car, i sold several cars to them.

 

[PaulRainbow]

I think you need to come up with a better solution than that.

Australia found a good solution in my opinion. It requires a breach of UN treaties though and that is something not many in Britain have the guts to do. It will be as hard to achieve as leaving the EU due to the very same built in resistance to independence within our institutions and leadership.

I did come up with a better solution, you didn't like that either. If they didn't come here illegally, then they must be the same as other "visiting yachtsmen". So put them back on their boat and send them on their way. We get lots of visiting boats and they leave, it's not our responsibility where they go, treat these the same, it's not as if we'd be sending a dinghy full of women and kids out into the sea.

 

[bartsbutt]

I have read the comments here with interest

 

[Dogone]

I did come up with a better solution, you didn't like that either. If they didn't come here illegally, then they must be the same as other "visiting yachtsmen". So put them back on their boat and send them on their way. We get lots of visiting boats and they leave, it's not our responsibility where they go, treat these the same, it's not as if we'd be sending a dinghy full of women and kids out into the sea.

It is not a better solution. It is non-solution for the reasons explained to you above.

 

[PaulRainbow]

It is not a better solution. It is non-solution for the reasons explained to you above.

Explained by who ?

 

[Gargleblaster]

I like the idea of processing asylum applications on Ascension. Absolutely no chance of disappearing in to the illegal economy. If anyone fails an application they simply stay on Ascension until they decide where they want to be taken to.

I would worry about the Green Turtle which use Acension for nesting. Ascension has done a really important job eliminating introduced species such as cats and rats so that the rare birds that could only nest on outlying islets are now returning to the main island. Some of the facilities on Ascension may not be too keen on having undocumented people of unkown origins wandering around perhaps even taking photographs. I needed specail permission to visit by boat.

 

[Tomahawk]

There is always an excuse to not do something.

 

[Daydream believer]

Is there cvil war in Albania?

Way things are going there might be civil war here in the not too distant future

 

[Daydream believer]

Typically they will have destroyed their passports... so while the authorities may believe they are Albanian... without proof (ie actual documentary proof) it will be the devil's own job to prove who they are, and thus removing them will be fraught with problems. The fact that they were actually caught entering illegally would, you'd think, be sufficient to swing it - but if they came from Ostend all we could do on that score is attempt to return them to Belgium - and the Belgians may deny them entry if they can't prove they're Belgian. Either they are held (at our expense) in a detention centre or they are released on condition they report regularly to the police / home office. When they don't report and disappear into the ex-pat community of their choice they will have achieved their aim. :-(

The answer is to let them live in such abject misery, that they want to go home- --perhaps giving them British citizenship for a start,