moodycruiser
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So you read the bit at the end that said it may have been the prototype rnli v/l (which obviously would not be "in service"....
13:15 hrs yesterday on river Itchen
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Will_M
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chrishelen
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Sorry funsize,i will calm down.i should not rise to the bait,but i cant belive some livaboards think a boat is like a caravan,it doesnt move,and their attitude extends from the street where life is cheap,any way lets put this one to bed ,my engine room calls yet again,perhaps my problem is i care too much,chris.
duncanmack
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Dear Chris,
You claim to be a professional? That only means you get paid for it. As I did 35 years ago.
You don't seem to be very bright or you would understand the problems/dangers described. Lunches and drinks (you made that one up BTW) being spilled are not the problem.
If you are only able to descend to puerile levels of personal abuse then I suggest you give up onanism and get out more.
Remember, professionals were driving the Titanic. Bit before your time, I know, but it could have been you.
You claim to be a professional? That only means you get paid for it. As I did 35 years ago.
You don't seem to be very bright or you would understand the problems/dangers described. Lunches and drinks (you made that one up BTW) being spilled are not the problem.
If you are only able to descend to puerile levels of personal abuse then I suggest you give up onanism and get out more.
Remember, professionals were driving the Titanic. Bit before your time, I know, but it could have been you.
moodycruiser
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Don't assume that live-aboards don't sail. We sail as often as we can and I have been sailing since I was 5 yrs old. I was at sea for some 20 yrs. get off your high horse.
Allan
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I keep my boat in Cardiff Bay and share it with many Powerboats, large and small. One thing I have noticed is that the "nice" people who slow down and come off the plane can be the worst! A large planning hull passing quite close can have very little affect, when they are "nice" and drop off the plane the wake is much more of a problem. The large ribs which take people out for a thrill ride have never been a problem to me. There is also a problem of physics. It seems to me every boat has a 'frequency' (my term) at which it rolls badly. When wake hits my trot of boats, most will roll a little but one or two will roll violently. It is not aways the same boats. It seems to be a function of size and shape of the waves and size and shape of the hull, plus the underwater profile.
Allan
Allan
moodycruiser
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I quite agree with you and do understand the problems that powerboats can have - my complaint was not directed to powerboat users, although I shudder to think of the result of steering failure whilst on the plane at close quarters (however, that doesn't excuse the large rib that has been doing up to twenty knots between shamrock and itchen marinas the last couple of evenings, or the three speedboats doing close on that all the way up to ocean quay a couple of weeks ago). I am still waiting to hear from the Asst Harbour master as to the cause of this particularly abnormal situation, ref which he has promised to inform me.
It is also with respect to the response from the HMs office regarding reporting and ,if possible, videoing boats travelling at excessive speeds in the 6 knot limit areas that I find it ironic that the first cause for report involved the HMs launch as well.
I have just been on the phone with VTS berthing masters and all the relevant people are out of office at present, so waiting for a call.
It is also with respect to the response from the HMs office regarding reporting and ,if possible, videoing boats travelling at excessive speeds in the 6 knot limit areas that I find it ironic that the first cause for report involved the HMs launch as well.
I have just been on the phone with VTS berthing masters and all the relevant people are out of office at present, so waiting for a call.
flaming
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I quite agree with you and do understand the problems that powerboats can have - my complaint was not directed to powerboat users, although I shudder to think of the result of steering failure whilst on the plane at close quarters (however, that doesn't excuse the large rib that has been doing up to twenty knots between shamrock and itchen marinas the last couple of evenings, or the three speedboats doing close on that all the way up to ocean quay a couple of weeks ago). I am still waiting to hear from the Asst Harbour master as to the cause of this particularly abnormal situation, ref which he has promised to inform me.
It is also with respect to the response from the HMs office regarding reporting and ,if possible, videoing boats travelling at excessive speeds in the 6 knot limit areas that I find it ironic that the first cause for report involved the HMs launch as well.
I have just been on the phone with VTS berthing masters and all the relevant people are out of office at present, so waiting for a call.
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Anyone else getting the impression that this seems to be a really bad place to keep your boat if you're a liveaboard!?
Must be really unpleasant during the winter months with sustained strong winds.
Have you ever considered maybe moving berth? I'm sure there are other options near by with a little bit more shelter!
I quite agree with you and do understand the problems that powerboats can have - my complaint was not directed to powerboat users, although I shudder to think of the result of steering failure whilst on the plane at close quarters (however, that doesn't excuse the large rib that has been doing up to twenty knots between shamrock and itchen marinas the last couple of evenings, or the three speedboats doing close on that all the way up to ocean quay a couple of weeks ago). I am still waiting to hear from the Asst Harbour master as to the cause of this particularly abnormal situation, ref which he has promised to inform me.
It is also with respect to the response from the HMs office regarding reporting and ,if possible, videoing boats travelling at excessive speeds in the 6 knot limit areas that I find it ironic that the first cause for report involved the HMs launch as well.
I have just been on the phone with VTS berthing masters and all the relevant people are out of office at present, so waiting for a call.
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Anyone else getting the impression that this seems to be a really bad place to keep your boat if you're a liveaboard!?
Must be really unpleasant during the winter months with sustained strong winds.
Have you ever considered maybe moving berth? I'm sure there are other options near by with a little bit more shelter!
moodycruiser
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Well, to be honest, it really isn't the norm. It's sometimes a bit bouncy in a sw7-8 in the winter, and the normal wash isn't really an issue. With ref to the ribs and speedboats, this seems to have got worse this year, and could just be down to inexperienced people getting hold of boats, "there's not much traffic on the river so I'll just give her a bit of a blast" or general impatience with having to go at 6knots all the way up to whereever they berth. I think part of the problem on this particular stretch is that it is possible to launch high speed craft, inc pwcs, ABOVE the 6 knot marker off dockhead. After that there seems to be some dispute about placing speed limit signs. I BELIEVE, so don't hold me to it, that it would be the councils responsibility to place signs at the launch sites and on the Toll bridge supports (which they obviously don't want to pay for, and HM, I BELIEVE, feel that they have fulfilled their obligations having the start of the limit marked. It can also be said that the speed limits, water skiing areas and pwc exclusion zones are charted and in almanacs, but how often do speedboats and pwcs (Not all of you, before I get a tongue lashing) carry or refer to charts and almanacs and local byelaws before they go for a jolly.
No, I'll not move as we have a very friendly marina, with a good proportion of live-aboards and it's nice to sit out in the cockpit on a sunny day (remember those, or e-mail me for a picture /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) and watch the traffic go by. (If I'm not off sailing, myself, that is).
No, I'll not move as we have a very friendly marina, with a good proportion of live-aboards and it's nice to sit out in the cockpit on a sunny day (remember those, or e-mail me for a picture /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) and watch the traffic go by. (If I'm not off sailing, myself, that is).
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and it's nice to sit out in the cockpit on a sunny day (remember those, or e-mail me for a picture /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) and watch the traffic go by.
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You forgot to mention the best sight of all... the Southampton university womens 8 oar scull in training.
and it's nice to sit out in the cockpit on a sunny day (remember those, or e-mail me for a picture /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) and watch the traffic go by.
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You forgot to mention the best sight of all... the Southampton university womens 8 oar scull in training.
BlueSkyNick
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erm ..... what time and day do they go training ?
(I have a friend who wants to know)
(I have a friend who wants to know)
rickp
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I think its somewhat dodgy when a charity starts operating a "hotel" business which is only available to "members".
Rick
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moodycruiser
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Yers, well, there is that of course /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
.. and to BigNick, normally when swmbo wants to know whats going on /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
.. and to BigNick, normally when swmbo wants to know whats going on /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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