sailorman
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why o why does YM insist in duel measuerments after some 32 yrs ( 32 yrs) of metrication. i find this a distraction how do other forumites feel answers to JJ.
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The UK is getting into metrication inch by inch ....
Anyway - the sport of boats is full of Imperial quotes on lengtsh etc. EVEN in those countrys that despise the British system .... how many boats are NAMED xxxx35, 38, 42 etc. etc ..... wheres the metrics then ?
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The UK is getting into metrication inch by inch ....
Anyway - the sport of boats is full of Imperial quotes on lengtsh etc. EVEN in those countrys that despise the British system .... how many boats are NAMED xxxx35, 38, 42 etc. etc ..... wheres the metrics then ?
<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ...
So WHAT does the EU really stand for ????/forums/images/icons/cool.gif
qsiv
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Re: Because
The intriguing converse, is of course the J Boat, from America which denies all knowledge if things Metric (except when they tap SI values into their Mars lander), who have used metricated (now there's a word TK would love) model names for ll but the original J24
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The intriguing converse, is of course the J Boat, from America which denies all knowledge if things Metric (except when they tap SI values into their Mars lander), who have used metricated (now there's a word TK would love) model names for ll but the original J24
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paulrossall
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
I would also prefer measurements just to be imperial but as part of the EEC I think we have to play the game and show the metric measurements as well. It is a pleasure to visit the USA and see all the road signs showing yards and none of this meteric rubbish about.IMHO
<hr width=100% size=1>" there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats".
I would also prefer measurements just to be imperial but as part of the EEC I think we have to play the game and show the metric measurements as well. It is a pleasure to visit the USA and see all the road signs showing yards and none of this meteric rubbish about.IMHO
<hr width=100% size=1>" there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats".
sailorman
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
yes but do the european mag have ft + metric surely were all grown-up enough to work the maths out for ourselves
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yes but do the european mag have ft + metric surely were all grown-up enough to work the maths out for ourselves
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Jools_of_Top_Cat
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
Which would you prefer,
personally give it me in feet and inches, my sounder is in ft, otherwise it would just be something deep.
I use metric when measuring small scale at say less than 400mm after than I can not visualise metric. Tell me it is 610 mm and that is just a number to me, but 2ft is a length. ( I had to work that out on a calculator /forums/images/icons/smile.gif)
I was taught metric in school, but had to convert when I started working, I can just imagine the skipper of the time asking me to let 40 fathom of wire off the drum and me asking him for that in meters lol, does not bear thinking about .
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Which would you prefer,
personally give it me in feet and inches, my sounder is in ft, otherwise it would just be something deep.
I use metric when measuring small scale at say less than 400mm after than I can not visualise metric. Tell me it is 610 mm and that is just a number to me, but 2ft is a length. ( I had to work that out on a calculator /forums/images/icons/smile.gif)
I was taught metric in school, but had to convert when I started working, I can just imagine the skipper of the time asking me to let 40 fathom of wire off the drum and me asking him for that in meters lol, does not bear thinking about .
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sailorman
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
yes i to was taught ft/ins @ skool also, but i now wotk in both imp & metric.
my point is do we really req. both printed in mags, especially down to EXACT figures.
it just spoils the flow of articles
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yes i to was taught ft/ins @ skool also, but i now wotk in both imp & metric.
my point is do we really req. both printed in mags, especially down to EXACT figures.
it just spoils the flow of articles
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Maurice55
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
Beeing french born, I surprisingly am not totally against the imperial system and actually use both but mostly metric at work (carpenter).
When something is 610mm long I am most likely to say it's two foot long, but only if it's only a rough idea, and as a matter of interest what do you say if it's 612mm long?
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Beeing french born, I surprisingly am not totally against the imperial system and actually use both but mostly metric at work (carpenter).
When something is 610mm long I am most likely to say it's two foot long, but only if it's only a rough idea, and as a matter of interest what do you say if it's 612mm long?
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Cornishman
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
A couple of years ago a contractor was about to do some work on the St Budeaux By-Pass, Plymouth and put up warning signs to the effect "Road Works 600m". Somebody pointed out that the legal units for the measure of distances in this country are still miles and yards and they had to replace their signs. I don't think anything has changed since. Next time you see a sign with a distance in metres you can make a name for your self!
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A couple of years ago a contractor was about to do some work on the St Budeaux By-Pass, Plymouth and put up warning signs to the effect "Road Works 600m". Somebody pointed out that the legal units for the measure of distances in this country are still miles and yards and they had to replace their signs. I don't think anything has changed since. Next time you see a sign with a distance in metres you can make a name for your self!
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FlyingSpud
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Re: Because
I am afraid that the reason that Beneteau etc still use feet as a way of naming their boats is nothing to do with the Brits and our little market and rather a lot to do with the USA, did someone once tell me they are more than 50% of the world’s total leisure marine market?
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I am afraid that the reason that Beneteau etc still use feet as a way of naming their boats is nothing to do with the Brits and our little market and rather a lot to do with the USA, did someone once tell me they are more than 50% of the world’s total leisure marine market?
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westhinder
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
The trouble with British mags is that they insist on converting everything into millimeters instead of centimeters. Here in Belgium (metric country), no one will talk about 610 mm, but 61 cm. A centimeter is at least as easy to visualise as an inch.
As far as I know, only people who work in the metal or instrument trades use millimeters for all lengths. The rest of us would say something is 61.2 cm instead of 612 mm.
We do of course use nautical miles and knots where appropriate, for obvious reasons.
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The trouble with British mags is that they insist on converting everything into millimeters instead of centimeters. Here in Belgium (metric country), no one will talk about 610 mm, but 61 cm. A centimeter is at least as easy to visualise as an inch.
As far as I know, only people who work in the metal or instrument trades use millimeters for all lengths. The rest of us would say something is 61.2 cm instead of 612 mm.
We do of course use nautical miles and knots where appropriate, for obvious reasons.
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VicMallows
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Is there something succinct in your use of 'duel' ? (see another thread going on).
Personally I am in full agreement. Its laughable that our elder daughter (now 36) was taught metric only in school and out of practical necessity had to learn imperial later!. 4 years later on the younger was being taught imperial. To make things even better, they spent quite a few years in the States, where their idea of converting the population to Metric was to have numerous billboards (hoardings) proclaiming that there are 28.35 grams in an ounce.
The Canadians did things better ... they BANNED rules (rulers) with imperial measurement from the schools.
A certain well-known computer company spent an awfull lot of money buying machined parts because they were specified as *precise* metric conversions from original imperial drawings, rather than being inteligently converted.
Vic
(ps what's JJ got to do with it? Didn't he retire from staff some years ago)
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Personally I am in full agreement. Its laughable that our elder daughter (now 36) was taught metric only in school and out of practical necessity had to learn imperial later!. 4 years later on the younger was being taught imperial. To make things even better, they spent quite a few years in the States, where their idea of converting the population to Metric was to have numerous billboards (hoardings) proclaiming that there are 28.35 grams in an ounce.
The Canadians did things better ... they BANNED rules (rulers) with imperial measurement from the schools.
A certain well-known computer company spent an awfull lot of money buying machined parts because they were specified as *precise* metric conversions from original imperial drawings, rather than being inteligently converted.
Vic
(ps what's JJ got to do with it? Didn't he retire from staff some years ago)
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davidhand
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
I have seen engineering drawings, in one case for a bridge dimensioned in mm. thousands of the little buggers.
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I have seen engineering drawings, in one case for a bridge dimensioned in mm. thousands of the little buggers.
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davidhand
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Re:Have to show we are playing the game
Yes, but we use those funny little gallons.
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Yes, but we use those funny little gallons.
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davidhand
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Yes I have a Beneteau 375, guess what it's 37'-5" long.
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Yes I have a Beneteau 375, guess what it's 37'-5" long.
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extravert
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X-Yachts went the other way, started with metric boat models (X79, X99, X109) and now have gone to feet and inches (X302, X332, X362 etc). I wonder what made them change.
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X-Yachts went the other way, started with metric boat models (X79, X99, X109) and now have gone to feet and inches (X302, X332, X362 etc). I wonder what made them change.
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Twister_Ken
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Graphic design also runs on mm
An A4 page being 210mm x 297mm for example.
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An A4 page being 210mm x 297mm for example.
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Twister_Ken
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Metre boat rules
Yet an old rating rule (many decades old, pre-WW2 certainly), gave us 6 metre boats, 8 metres, 12 metres, 15 meters, etc.
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Yet an old rating rule (many decades old, pre-WW2 certainly), gave us 6 metre boats, 8 metres, 12 metres, 15 meters, etc.
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Chris_Robb
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Farce
I was taught in metric at school in the 60s - Imperial was discontinued in my first year.
I think it is the biggest farce ever that we have not totally ditched metric - 40 years later.
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I was taught in metric at school in the 60s - Imperial was discontinued in my first year.
I think it is the biggest farce ever that we have not totally ditched metric - 40 years later.
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bigmart
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A totally cantankerous awkward old Git, I love the fact that we havn't ditched the old systems. I still use Pounds Shillings & Pence when seeking to confuse the unwary. I havn't quite got my head round Rods Poles & Perches but I'm sure, that with a little study, they can be used to good effect.
Vive la difference!
Martin
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A totally cantankerous awkward old Git, I love the fact that we havn't ditched the old systems. I still use Pounds Shillings & Pence when seeking to confuse the unwary. I havn't quite got my head round Rods Poles & Perches but I'm sure, that with a little study, they can be used to good effect.
Vive la difference!
Martin
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