UFO 34's in the 1979 Fastnet Race

[Ilenart]

Hi everyone,

Trying to find information about two UFO 34 yachts that competed in the infamous 1979 Fastnet race. I understand that six UFO 34's participated

Black Arrow - finished 1st in Class 4
Mahuri - finished 3rd in Class 4
Kamisado - retired
Sandettie - retired
?????? - retired
?????? - retired

Does anyone know the names of the other two yachts?

Ilenart

 

[matt1]

Hi everyone,

Trying to find information about two UFO 34 yachts that competed in the infamous 1979 Fastnet race. I understand that six UFO 34's participated

Black Arrow - finished 1st in Class 4
Mahuri - finished 3rd in Class 4
Kamisado - retired
Sandettie - retired
?????? - retired
?????? - retired



Does anyone know the names of the other two yachts?

Ilenart

Ufo fi fum. ? Green hull, used to be on the Hamble in the 80's

 

[Ilenart]

Ufo fi fum. ? Green hull, used to be on the Hamble in the 80's

Thank for the reply Matt. However if "fi fum" competed in the 1979 Fastnet race I would expect that they would be listed in Class IV. Below is a list of all the yachts that competed in Class IV. You can see that Black Arrow, Mahuri, Kamisado & Sandettie are all on the list. The two yachts I am trying to identify are most probably listed below.

Another way of asking is whether anyone can recognise any of the yachts listed below as UFO 34"s?


FASTNET 1979 – CLASS IV

YACHT NAME OWNER DETAILS

Black Arrow Royal Air Force SA Finished 1st – UFO 34
Samsara Madame O Tran-Van-Dom Finished 2nd
Lorelei M Catherineu Finished 2nd (time allowance)
Mahuri GM Lowson Finished 3rd – UFO 34
Kalisana HMS Sultan (Cdr Watson) Finished 4th
Karimata E Blokzyl Finished 5th
Tronador RMH Edwards Finished 6th
Dai Mouse Ill DWT Hague Retired
Challenge FM Murray Retired
Bertheaume Brest Syndicate Retired
Kamisado MJW Green Retired – UFO 34
Fragola GLC des Glenans Retired
Golden Princess A Hagnere Retired
Scattered Magic J Chuter Retired
Cheesecake D Hopkins Retired
Contentious Eagle Barclays Bank Ltd (B Roberts) Retired
Cosmic Dancer RG Warren Retired
Minipyge M Merfabruge Retired
Baradozic M Ganachaud Retired
Nepthys II Y Bodin Retired
Prairie Oyster CFR Purchase Retired
Goniocoque P Barriere Retired
Virginie Ecole Navale Retired
Drakkar R Morelisse Retired
Quixote E & IJ Watts Retired
Sigmania Major P Scholfield Retired
Electron II HMS Collingwood Retired
En Passant M Postman Retired
Hullabaloo AJ ·Otten Retired
Cassiopee R Hubert Retired
Rhapsody JA Hughes Retired
Cote De Beaute M Amiant Retired
Dumonveh G Messink Retired
Thunderflash Royal Naval Engineering College Retired
Copernicus A Morton & B Jackson Retired
Impetus DJC Longstaffe Retired
Carronade Mr & Mrs P Clements Retired
Alvena Y Oreo Retired
Scenario A Fitton Retired
Maelstrom MA Bolson Retired
Lipstick C Clarke & D Seabrook Retired
Sandettie I K Krygsman Retired – UFO 34
Fiorinda PB Eyre Retired
Detente CK Bond-Smith Retired
locomotion EA & JA Clegg Retired
Flashlight RN Engineering College Retired
Hestrul II DA Lewis Retired
Gringo A Morgan Retired
Callirhoe Ill P Bouyssou Retired
Ariadne FH Ferris Retired
Polar Bear JC Clothier Retired
Pegasus PGA White Retired
Ocean Wave J Toler Retired
Cabadah Capt G Greenfield Retired
Odyssea M Guichard Retired
Mezzanine K Hancock &lChapman Retired
Elessar II WPJ Laros Retired
Clarionet G & N Playfair Retired

 

[john_morris_uk]

Nearly 10% of the entries were military boats.

I discover that many of them were still about when I joined the RN in '92 and I've sailed at least three of them.

How times change.

 

[CCJ]

Thank for the reply Matt. However if "fi fum" competed in the 1979 Fastnet race I would expect that they would be listed in Class IV. Below is a list of all the yachts that competed in Class IV. You can see that Black Arrow, Mahuri, Kamisado & Sandettie are all on the list. The two yachts I am trying to identify are most probably listed below.

Another way of asking is whether anyone can recognise any of the yachts listed below as UFO 34"s?


FASTNET 1979 – CLASS IV

YACHT NAME OWNER DETAILS

Black Arrow Royal Air Force SA Finished 1st – UFO 34
Samsara Madame O Tran-Van-Dom Finished 2nd
Lorelei M Catherineu Finished 2nd (time allowance)
Mahuri GM Lowson Finished 3rd – UFO 34
Kalisana HMS Sultan (Cdr Watson) Finished 4th
Karimata E Blokzyl Finished 5th
Tronador RMH Edwards Finished 6th
Dai Mouse Ill DWT Hague Retired
Challenge FM Murray Retired
Bertheaume Brest Syndicate Retired
Kamisado MJW Green Retired – UFO 34
Fragola GLC des Glenans Retired
Golden Princess A Hagnere Retired
Scattered Magic J Chuter Retired
Cheesecake D Hopkins Retired
Contentious Eagle Barclays Bank Ltd (B Roberts) Retired
Cosmic Dancer RG Warren Retired
Minipyge M Merfabruge Retired
Baradozic M Ganachaud Retired
Nepthys II Y Bodin Retired
Prairie Oyster CFR Purchase Retired
Goniocoque P Barriere Retired
Virginie Ecole Navale Retired
Drakkar R Morelisse Retired
Quixote E & IJ Watts Retired
Sigmania Major P Scholfield Retired
Electron II HMS Collingwood Retired
En Passant M Postman Retired
Hullabaloo AJ ·Otten Retired
Cassiopee R Hubert Retired
Rhapsody JA Hughes Retired
Cote De Beaute M Amiant Retired
Dumonveh G Messink Retired
Thunderflash Royal Naval Engineering College Retired
Copernicus A Morton & B Jackson Retired
Impetus DJC Longstaffe Retired
Carronade Mr & Mrs P Clements Retired
Alvena Y Oreo Retired
Scenario A Fitton Retired
Maelstrom MA Bolson Retired
Lipstick C Clarke & D Seabrook Retired
Sandettie I K Krygsman Retired – UFO 34
Fiorinda PB Eyre Retired
Detente CK Bond-Smith Retired
locomotion EA & JA Clegg Retired
Flashlight RN Engineering College Retired
Hestrul II DA Lewis Retired
Gringo A Morgan Retired
Callirhoe Ill P Bouyssou Retired
Ariadne FH Ferris Retired
Polar Bear JC Clothier Retired
Pegasus PGA White Retired
Ocean Wave J Toler Retired
Cabadah Capt G Greenfield Retired
Odyssea M Guichard Retired
Mezzanine K Hancock &lChapman Retired
Elessar II WPJ Laros Retired
Clarionet G & N Playfair Retired

He was my broker until he retired a few years ago

Great info there do you have info on the IOR One Tonners

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

He was my broker until he retired a few years ago

Great info there do you have info on the IOR One Tonners

No, Carronade was a Gary Mull 3/4 tonner, and was the 'prototype' for what became the Oyster 34.

Interestingly, she retired with her keel loose enough to be described as swinging when in the hoist at Plymouth. The first 'keel failure' that I can remember.

Edit - would I be right in half remembering that Peter's previous boat was also a Carronade, and mebbe that one was a UFO?

 

[youen]

Histoire des halfs is a french website where you can find a lot of informations about all the tonner classes

 

[CCJ]

No, Carronade was a Gary Mull 3/4 tonner, and was the 'prototype' for what became the Oyster 34.

Interestingly, she retired with her keel loose enough to be described as swinging when in the hoist at Plymouth. The first 'keel failure' that I can remember.

Edit - would I be right in half remembering that Peter's previous boat was also a Carronade, and mebbe that one was a UFO?

That wasnt the question

 

[youen]

Polar Bear was à 3/4 tonner one off design by Holman. built by McGruer quite similar to an Ufo 34

 

[youen]

PS :She is cold moulded

 

[michael_w]

Not Samsara, she's a Frers 3/4 tonner.

 

[A1Sailor]

Another way of asking is whether anyone can recognise any of the yachts listed below as UFO 34"s?
FASTNET 1979 – CLASS IV
YACHT NAME OWNER DETAILS

Black Arrow Royal Air Force SA Finished 1st – UFO 34
Samsara Madame O Tran-Van-Dom Finished 2nd
Lorelei M Catherineu Finished 2nd (time allowance)
Mahuri GM Lowson Finished 3rd – UFO 34
Kalisana HMS Sultan (Cdr Watson) Finished 4th
Karimata E Blokzyl Finished 5th
Tronador RMH Edwards Finished 6th
Dai Mouse Ill DWT Hague Retired
Challenge FM Murray Retired
Bertheaume Brest Syndicate Retired
Kamisado MJW Green Retired – UFO 34
Fragola GLC des Glenans Retired
Golden Princess A Hagnere Retired
Scattered Magic J Chuter Retired
Cheesecake D Hopkins Retired
Contentious Eagle Barclays Bank Ltd (B Roberts) Retired
Cosmic Dancer RG Warren Retired
Minipyge M Merfabruge Retired
Baradozic M Ganachaud Retired
Nepthys II Y Bodin Retired
Prairie Oyster CFR Purchase Retired
Goniocoque P Barriere Retired
Virginie Ecole Navale Retired
Drakkar R Morelisse Retired
Quixote E & IJ Watts Retired
Sigmania Major P Scholfield Retired
Electron II HMS Collingwood Retired
En Passant M Postman Retired
Hullabaloo AJ ·Otten Retired
Cassiopee R Hubert Retired
Rhapsody JA Hughes Retired
Cote De Beaute M Amiant Retired
Dumonveh G Messink Retired
Thunderflash Royal Naval Engineering College Retired
Copernicus A Morton & B Jackson Retired
Impetus DJC Longstaffe Retired
Carronade Mr & Mrs P Clements Retired
Alvena Y Oreo Retired
Scenario A Fitton Retired
Maelstrom MA Bolson Retired
Lipstick C Clarke & D Seabrook Retired
Sandettie I K Krygsman Retired – UFO 34
Fiorinda PB Eyre Retired
Detente CK Bond-Smith Retired
locomotion EA & JA Clegg Retired
Flashlight RN Engineering College Retired
Hestrul II DA Lewis Retired
Gringo A Morgan Retired
Callirhoe Ill P Bouyssou Retired
Ariadne FH Ferris Retired
Polar Bear JC Clothier Retired
Pegasus PGA White Retired
Ocean Wave J Toler Retired
Cabadah Capt G Greenfield Retired
Odyssea M Guichard Retired
Mezzanine K Hancock &lChapman Retired
Elessar II WPJ Laros Retired
Clarionet G & N Playfair Retired

A list of UFO 34s from the CYCA database:

WINDRIFT OF CLYDE UFO 34
710C FASCINATOR
812C HULA HOOP
1173C KERRY MAID
2552C FREEWAY
K3412T SCURRY
3518Y HYDROVANE
K4114 SALAMANDER OF KIP
K4126 VINDICATOR
K4135 SUNDOWNER OF DOWN
K4142 RENEGADE OF WYRE
K4143 FOXCLOUD
K4144 QUASAR
K4165 TAURUS
K4194 INCISOR
GBR4197 MAHURI
K4227 GAEL
http://www.cyca-online.org.uk/handicaps.asp

Edit:
None seem to be in the OPs list.

 

[Ilenart]

Edit - would I be right in half remembering that Peter's previous boat was also a Carronade, and mebbe that one was a UFO?

I've had a hunt around the Internet and cannot find any references to Carronade being a UFO 34

 

[youen]

,
Carronade on 1979 was a Garry Pull design

 

[youen]

Sorry Garry Mull

 

[wotayottie]

Thank for the reply Matt. However if "fi fum" competed in the 1979 Fastnet race I would expect that they would be listed in Class IV. Below is a list of all the yachts that competed in Class IV. You can see that Black Arrow, Mahuri, Kamisado & Sandettie are all on the list. The two yachts I am trying to identify are most probably listed below.

Another way of asking is whether anyone can recognise any of the yachts listed below as UFO 34"s?


FASTNET 1979 – CLASS IV

Is your class assumption right. I know of a High Tension 36 who definitelky sailed in that race and isnt in your list. Near a UFO 34 in size, so maybe the UFOs are in more than one class

 

[Ilenart]

Is your class assumption right. I know of a High Tension 36 who definitelky sailed in that race and isnt in your list. Near a UFO 34 in size, so maybe the UFOs are in more than one class

Could be, however the other 4 UFO 34's I have identified were in class IV.

Ballydonna, a High Tension 36, was in class III

Ilenart

 

[youen]

You can Ask to the Rorc the entry list they are very helpful

 

[Ilenart]

You can Ask to the Rorc the entry list they are very helpful

Have reviewed the rorc websites and it contains very little information pre-2000

 

[youen]

Yes but if you contact the office I am quite sure they will give you thé entries list on Which you will find he type of boat for each entry .I have the 1977 list but inflortunatly I dont find the 1979 one.I have already asked old race results to thé Rorc and they emailed them rather quickly.If you want I can give you thé Ufo 34 racing on 1977