Hoolie
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... and with a cruise speed of 3.94 knots it's not my cup of tea either!
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... and with a cruise speed of 3.94 knots it's not my cup of tea either!
Greenheart
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I can't help thinking Errol Flynn had the right idea...
Am I alone, getting these pictures appearing about eight times bigger than they need to be for comfortable viewing?
Am I alone, getting these pictures appearing about eight times bigger than they need to be for comfortable viewing?
Madhatter
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I just looked at the Spirit Yachts website
and to put it crudely "I got a stiffy " just looking at those modern sculptures.
Gets hat-N-coat leaves at nearest exit
and to put it crudely "I got a stiffy " just looking at those modern sculptures.Gets hat-N-coat leaves at nearest exit
Greenheart
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It's true, the bigger Spirit yachts are pretty impressive. Glance at this:
http://www.spirityachts.com/spirityachts_100_ss.htm
But a tad too sleek for me. I'd feel my belly and unruly hair and silly grin were out of place. Best thing about the crowded decks of an old gaffer, is how much a part of the furnishings I'd feel...
(That's not me, sadly...)
http://www.spirityachts.com/spirityachts_100_ss.htm
But a tad too sleek for me. I'd feel my belly and unruly hair and silly grin were out of place. Best thing about the crowded decks of an old gaffer, is how much a part of the furnishings I'd feel...
(That's not me, sadly...)
westernman
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I think that is the speed just using the bow thrusters.
I think I once read somewhere normal cruising speed of 16 knots.
It still does not change the aesthetics of the thing in anyway.
alahol2
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I think no matter how many millions I had I wouldn't want a boat that I couldn't manage singlehanded. One of the main reasons I continued sailing was that it got me away from all the politics and manoeuverings that go on in any group of people. I wouldn't want to have to leave the main cabin to go to the galley. I like to feel snug in my cabin at night and hear the wind, rain and waves on the outside (I like camping too
). Just me and the missus with a bottle of wine and the radio on quietly, money doesn't buy that.
If we want others around we sail in company with other boats.
Many of the boats mentioned so far are beautiful to look at but I genuinely don't covet any of them.
With my millions I'd probably just replace the standing and running rigging and maybe get the hull and deck sprayed.
Edit: This must come close to a definition of 'maudlin'.
). Just me and the missus with a bottle of wine and the radio on quietly, money doesn't buy that.If we want others around we sail in company with other boats.
Many of the boats mentioned so far are beautiful to look at but I genuinely don't covet any of them.
With my millions I'd probably just replace the standing and running rigging and maybe get the hull and deck sprayed.
Edit: This must come close to a definition of 'maudlin'.
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Bajansailor
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What a wonderfully diverse range of dream boats described above!
All lovely and attractive in their own right - it would be boring if we all had the same stereo-typed views as to what is beautiful, sexy, covetable, drop-dead-gorgeous.......,
For all Ovni fans (and I have a soft spot for them as well), you could also consider a Maracuja, built by the Garcia yard in France. I dont think very many Maracujas were built - they dont seem to come up for sale too often - but here is one :
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984/Garcia-Maracuja-2384111/France
Some pals bought one in France 23 years ago, and sailed her to the Caribbean, where I first met them. Beautiful boat, lovely ergonomic accomodation, sailed like a witch and went like a pocket rocketship down wind with the keel up.
They left the Canaries, hoisted two large genoas poled out wing and wing, wound the keel up and surfed their way across, knocking out a steady 200 miles every day very comfortably.
Not bad for a 40' tubby cruising yacht!
Alubat (who build Ovnis) also build the Cigale series - also seriously nice.
http://www.alubat.com/?lang=fr&keyRubrique=cigale16-new
All lovely and attractive in their own right - it would be boring if we all had the same stereo-typed views as to what is beautiful, sexy, covetable, drop-dead-gorgeous.......,
For all Ovni fans (and I have a soft spot for them as well), you could also consider a Maracuja, built by the Garcia yard in France. I dont think very many Maracujas were built - they dont seem to come up for sale too often - but here is one :
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984/Garcia-Maracuja-2384111/France
Some pals bought one in France 23 years ago, and sailed her to the Caribbean, where I first met them. Beautiful boat, lovely ergonomic accomodation, sailed like a witch and went like a pocket rocketship down wind with the keel up.
They left the Canaries, hoisted two large genoas poled out wing and wing, wound the keel up and surfed their way across, knocking out a steady 200 miles every day very comfortably.
Not bad for a 40' tubby cruising yacht!
Alubat (who build Ovnis) also build the Cigale series - also seriously nice.
http://www.alubat.com/?lang=fr&keyRubrique=cigale16-new
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Greenheart
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That's a wherry isn't it? Certainly an eyeful. Lovely conversion from cargo to living-space.
Doesn't she carry any headsail at all? Must be a pain if she's ever caught between stays.
For rugged practicality, I rather fancy something on the lines of old Suhali...
...anyone know what happened to her?
I echo Alahol2's desire to cope without a numerous crew, emptying the booze locker and filling up the holding tank...
...but I'm still under the spell of gaffers and small square riggers. I quite like the schooner Amazing Grace...
I wonder to what extent the need for crew can be cut by roller-reefing aloft, as I believe the Lord Nelson uses.
Not that I want the whole ship, remote-controlled...but worse to be kept on the mooring by enjoying one's own company...
This isn't my ideal:
Doesn't she carry any headsail at all? Must be a pain if she's ever caught between stays.
For rugged practicality, I rather fancy something on the lines of old Suhali...
...anyone know what happened to her?
I echo Alahol2's desire to cope without a numerous crew, emptying the booze locker and filling up the holding tank...
...but I'm still under the spell of gaffers and small square riggers. I quite like the schooner Amazing Grace...
I wonder to what extent the need for crew can be cut by roller-reefing aloft, as I believe the Lord Nelson uses.
Not that I want the whole ship, remote-controlled...but worse to be kept on the mooring by enjoying one's own company...
This isn't my ideal:
wklein
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Suhali is in Totnes on the Dart at the moment, not sure who owns her, We have British Steel here too in a sorry looking state. Suhali wasn't even knox Johnson's first choice, just what he happened to own at the time.
Greenheart
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Sorry to hear British Steel is suffering neglect. That's a yacht that looks a smart compromise...
...nice rear overhang, quite a looker, lots of space, undeniably tough and proven as single-handable.
I hadn't thought much about ketches...Ah! Yes, I had...one at the top of my dream-list...Nauticat 52
...nice rear overhang, quite a looker, lots of space, undeniably tough and proven as single-handable.
I hadn't thought much about ketches...Ah! Yes, I had...one at the top of my dream-list...Nauticat 52
Romeo
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If I had limitless budget I would not in fact concentrate on a boat only for my use. I would commission a big, carvel dipping lug zulu to be built by a Scottish Yard. I could undertake the occassional match race with Reaper from the Scottish Fisheries Museum. There are no big Zulus operating under original rig, and in the past there must have been thousands of them. It would be really interesting to compare the performance of the Zulu and the Fifie, and I would derive huge satisfaction from seeing such a boat built new. I would of course rely on having a lot of pals to sail such a boat, and a substantial part of my imaginary wealth would be spent on food and drink for the happy crew.
Greenheart
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I echo Romeo's budget-input for my dream-boats' food & drink locker.
If the boat-budget really is limitless, and mainly out of interest in the limits of engineering, I'd like to know how fast a ship might be, if designed with other factors like load-carrying, not prioritized.
Had a look at the Nimitz-class carriers, here: http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-028.htm
...about which a lot of nonsense is apparently propagated, such as the Nimitz's nuclear plant giving the ship a 56-knot top speed. That, I'd like to see!
But if a gigantic catamaran, say 800'x180', with hulls 50' wide, was given similar power to the Nimitz - something like 1/3 million horsepower - but without the carrier's bulk in the sea...maybe those loony speeds would be realistic.
Imagine it...go aboard the Nuke-Cat at Southampton, six pm Friday, settle down to cocktails as she accelerates past Durlston Head at 75 knots...then Saturday at sea, and arrive in New York for a bagel brunch on Sunday.
Considering how well established the formidable power of nuclear fission already is in superpower navies, maybe it's a pity we haven't seen it replace the hundreds of thousands of tonnes of oil burned every year by liners/Maersk monsters, etc.
Would make an impressive private yacht. Reactor-powered hydrofoil 300' floating pleasure dome? Or, an Ekranoplan!
If the boat-budget really is limitless, and mainly out of interest in the limits of engineering, I'd like to know how fast a ship might be, if designed with other factors like load-carrying, not prioritized.
Had a look at the Nimitz-class carriers, here: http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-028.htm
...about which a lot of nonsense is apparently propagated, such as the Nimitz's nuclear plant giving the ship a 56-knot top speed. That, I'd like to see!
But if a gigantic catamaran, say 800'x180', with hulls 50' wide, was given similar power to the Nimitz - something like 1/3 million horsepower - but without the carrier's bulk in the sea...maybe those loony speeds would be realistic.
Imagine it...go aboard the Nuke-Cat at Southampton, six pm Friday, settle down to cocktails as she accelerates past Durlston Head at 75 knots...then Saturday at sea, and arrive in New York for a bagel brunch on Sunday.
Considering how well established the formidable power of nuclear fission already is in superpower navies, maybe it's a pity we haven't seen it replace the hundreds of thousands of tonnes of oil burned every year by liners/Maersk monsters, etc.
Would make an impressive private yacht. Reactor-powered hydrofoil 300' floating pleasure dome? Or, an Ekranoplan!
Twister_Ken
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Unless RKJ has had a complete change of mind, he still owns Suhaili. He did about 18 months back, anyway.
Twister_Ken
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1. I suspect the engineering problems of holding together two hulls 80' apart at the speeds you propose would be a tad more than challenging.
2. NY for Sunday Brunch rather ignores the restraint that wind and seastate would impose.
3.Where TF would you park the thing?
Greenheart
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Just one nuclear-powered hull then, 60' wide and a thousand long. Free passage for anyone making the trip without being sick.
I'll stick with my square topsail ambitions.
I'll stick with my square topsail ambitions.
Koert
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Hi dancrane, you are absolutely right! What boat is this?!
