Bav34
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There's obviously a right time and a wrong time to undo your safety line... this guy was lucky
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8383946.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8383946.stm
Yachtsman overboard in South Atlantic
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Csail
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Looks more like he jumped out?
status
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Rather him than me! I assume he was wearing a dry suit type thing, I would have thought 17 mins in the South Atlantic could be quite detrimental.
p.s. I'm too slow as usual, saw the item on tv, just got the laptop to boot and beaten to a post!
p.s. I'm too slow as usual, saw the item on tv, just got the laptop to boot and beaten to a post!
Blue5
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MOB
Watching the video it suggests another crew member went in the water with a harness after hin, he is clearly tethered to a line. Is this a practised method?
Watching the video it suggests another crew member went in the water with a harness after hin, he is clearly tethered to a line. Is this a practised method?
whipper_snapper
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Yes, that is the primary method we used to practice on bigger boats. There is a designated person (and a designated spare person!) who goes over in a harness with a helicopter strop. I have seen it practiced 1,000s of times, but never seen it used it anger. It has the disadvantage of a vertical lift, but the advantage of speed and simplicity. Shame the video didn't show the really critical phase of getting back to man in the water and stopping the boat next to him.
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Pretty Easy Way To Go Overboard - Who Needs A Storm!
What's surprising is the relative slowness of it all, almost a simple, casual slide on ones belly - not a green water smash forcing one to loose a desperate struggle to remain on board.
They missed that risk on their Health and Safety Risk Assessment, which I believe this Company was obliged to carry out.
Supports a case for netting along the guard wires. A few sailors with small children regularly on their boats (Grand Parents / Parents) have fitted netting to keep the toddlers on board.
What's surprising is the relative slowness of it all, almost a simple, casual slide on ones belly - not a green water smash forcing one to loose a desperate struggle to remain on board.
They missed that risk on their Health and Safety Risk Assessment, which I believe this Company was obliged to carry out.
Supports a case for netting along the guard wires. A few sailors with small children regularly on their boats (Grand Parents / Parents) have fitted netting to keep the toddlers on board.
planteater
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There is netting fitted forward of the cockpit. What a strange decision to stop the netting level with the companionway.
alant
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Supports the case for NEVER undoing your strop, until you are off-deck within the confines of the companionway ladder. Strop is then left dangling, until you again want to go out on deck, re-attaching before you go!
This MOB should not have happened.
popeye the sailorman
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Watching this sends a shudder down my spine.Arthur Bowers was very lucky,
just think that could of happened during the hours of darkness and we now would be seeing a different story me thinks.
Well done to the skipper and credit to the crew.
just think that could of happened during the hours of darkness and we now would be seeing a different story me thinks.
Well done to the skipper and credit to the crew.
Boomshanka
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Good to see he's safely back on board, and shows the value of MOB practice... but the most telling thing is how utterly useless a lightweight foam lifebuoy is, especially in a blow... how long did that take a crew member out of useful action getting it ready? A weighted throwing line would have been better.
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30boat
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I think the reporter said the waves were 8m high?Didn't seem to be that bad even taking into account that sea state always appears to be better when filmed.
st599
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Wouldn't that depend on the distance between the waves too? 8m waves 800m apart would be different to 8m apart.
Ubergeekian
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Even though I knew what to expect, the moment when he went over made me feel physically sick.
Captain Haddock
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Agree with you there, the horseshoe buoy just went with the wind... useless!
Didn't think a person could just slip through like that, dodgers or netting as standard for me on any yacht I get after seeing that.
Vid
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It happened on a boat I was on once - a large adult male crew member (not clipped on) was caught off balance in rough conditions and slipped straight through the wires. As the yacht heeled he just fell into the sea. This was on a dark and stormy night mid-channel - fortunately he was retrieved in less than 15mins. I don't think this sort of thing happens often but it certainly can.
It serves to remind all of us of the need to clip on, particularly in rough conditions.
alant
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Even with netting, a boat 'lurching', has been known to catapult a crew member into the sea.
The only safe system, is always being clipped on.
tudorsailor
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Bav34
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MOB has often been debated on here with differing views . Not a bad thing.
We have a mix of devices including one like this:
http://www.marine-super-store.com/posit/shop/index.php?selectedpartno=07599
I just KNOW that it could be the life saver when the danbuoy and horseshoe have drifted off, but the casualty is close. Simple, quick, accurate, uncomplicated. Buy one.
AntarcticPilot
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Buy a throwing line??? BUY a throwing line???? What's wrong with making one; its easy enough to tie a Monkey's Fist. And I notice that Kip marina has rather nice throwing lines where the knot is a Turk's Head pulled up tight round a core. I'm sure everyone here can tie easy knots like these?
Bav34
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On the basis of never had to use an actual throwing line in > 30 years of sailing I suspect that any made-up line would slowly sink to the bottom of its respective locker where it will be twisted and inaccessible when needed.
Our bought one
is attached to the pushpit every time we go out and is ready in the time it takes to undo the toggle that keeps the holder shut ... < 5 secs?And no ... I can't tie a Turks Head ... or a Carrick knot.
Where's the 'deep shame' emoticon ?
