Yachtsman of the year? NOT Mike Perham

[snooks]

The yachtsman of the year won't be Mike Perham - May be he's too young and he hasn't been nominated

There's always the Young sailor of the year - Except he hasn't been nominated for that either

More info on Dick Durham's blog

 

[Madhatter]

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The yachtsman of the year won't be Mike Perham - May be he's too young and he hasn't been nominated

There's always the Young sailor of the year - Except he hasn't been nominated for that either

More info on Dick Durham's blog

Maybe we should have our own Award

I think all young people who achieve such incredible feats of endurance should be recognized to set an example to those who persist in filling their bodies with chemicals or beating up each other etc etc

 

[Koeketiene]

1. Apart from daddy Perham (and maybe Toad of Toadhall on here) who cares? He did it, it was supposedly 'his' dream - well done. Luck bugger. Why else does he expect?
2. A RTW sailing trip is sailing/racing circles has always been regarded as taking in all the capes - his shortcut via Panama was no doubt sensible, but then what about the American boy who DID go 'all the way'?

 

[snooks]

1. Apart from daddy Perham (and maybe Toad of Toadhall on here) who cares? He did it, it was supposedly 'his' dream - well done. Luck bugger. Why else does he expect?

When Seb Clover sailed across the Atlantic he got the Young sailor of the year, when Mike did it at a younger age he got nout

Now he's sailed around the world crossing all the lines of longtitude, and he doesn't even get nominated?

2. A RTW sailing trip is sailing/racing circles has always been regarded as taking in all the capes - his shortcut via Panama was no doubt sensible, but then what about the American boy who DID go 'all the way'?

You might want to let the Clipper round the world race know as well

Zac Sunderland also went through the panama canal, unless you're thinking of the aussis David Dicks or Jesse Martin

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

The yachtsman of the year won't be Mike Perham - May be he's too young and he hasn't been nominated
There's always the Young sailor of the year - Except he hasn't been nominated for that either
More info on Dick Durham's blog

I very much doubt he cares. He's had the adventure of a lifetime sailing a fast boat round the world. That's reward in itself.

 

[Koeketiene]

When Seb Clover sailed across the Atlantic he got the Young sailor of the year, when Mike did it at a younger age he got nout

Now he's sailed around the world crossing all the lines of longtitude, and he doesn't even get nominated?

According to an industry contact, his dad is Mike's worst enemy.
IMO, the snub's more likely directed at daddy.

Clipper - more the ARC on speed than a real race.
Vendee Globe, Volvo Ocean, Withbread (RIP) - the 'big boys' went via all the capes.

I've been to the South Pole and walked around the flag pole there - crossing all the lines of longitude - have I been RTW?

Zac Sunderland also went through the panama canal, unless you're thinking of the aussis David Dicks or Jesse Martin

You're right - easy to get them mixed up.
Guess it will end when a toddler has been RTW - Moses in a basket?

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

2. A RTW sailing trip is sailing/racing circles has always been regarded as taking in all the capes - his shortcut via Panama was no doubt sensible, but then what about the American boy who DID go 'all the way'?

a) He didn't go south of Cape Horn.
b) An American would be an unlikely winner of a UK award.

HTH.

PS Do you ever check your facts before opening your mouth???

 

[Koeketiene]

a) He didn't go south of Cape Horn.
b) An American would be an unlikley winner of a UK award.

HTH.

PS Do you ever check your facts before opening your mouth???

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

<sigh>

 

[sailorman]

The Finest Swordsman in All Spain

 

[Ubergeekian]

The yachtsman of the year won't be Mike Perham - May be he's too young and he hasn't been nominated

I'm not sure that any of these "go out in a big. mostly automated boat and sail sort of round the world while being told constantly what to do and where to go by a support team back home who will lay on help if anything goes wrong" efforts should win that sort of award

 

[Ubergeekian]

You might want to let the Clipper round the world race know as well

That's just a skippered flotilla holiday on a slightly bigger scale.

 

[sailorman]

On a more positive note, maybe its because there are plenty of other noteworthy things and they will be awarded this time?

Hilary Lister
http://www.hilarylister.com/

 

[Ceirwan]

On a more positive note, maybe its because there are plenty of other noteworthy things and they will be awarded this time?

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

I'm not sure that any of these "go out in a big. mostly automated boat and sail sort of round the world while being told constantly what to do and where to go by a support team back home who will lay on help if anything goes wrong" efforts should win that sort of award

...and the people nominated don't seem too shabby! Hardly a snub to be considered inferior to those three!

It's a story about nothing.

 

[gerry99]

Could it have something to do with the fact that the "story" was covered by TV so there was not as many column inches for the magazines and journalists as would have otherwise been the case? And could YM's interest in the lack of his nomination also be driven by similar motives?

Apart from Dick's Blog (generally a good read) and Snooks post I dont see an overwhelming tide of opinion one way or the other.

I am not trying to be cynical here but i quote "For the full story see Yachting Monthly's January issue out soon."

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

Hilary Lister
http://www.hilarylister.com/

So Hillary Lister has been snubbed as well!

I can see Yachting Monthly's headline:

"All but three UK yachtsmen snubbed, shocker!"


(I jest of course - I thought the YM Canada article was fantastic this month and I'm not a regular buyer!)

 

[Woodlouse]

2. A RTW sailing trip is sailing/racing circles has always been regarded as taking in all the capes - his shortcut via Panama was no doubt sensible, but then what about the American boy who DID go 'all the way'?

You are more than a little wrong there. Very few people choose to circumnavigate via the three great capes. The vast majority of yachts and even ships that circumnavigate do so though Panama and Suez instead of going around the Horn and Good Hope.

As for running around the South Pole, it's something I've always wanted to do. But what is considered a true circumnavigation in sailing circles for world records at least is not only a voyage that covers all degrees of longitude, but you must also visit both hemispheres, this is to stop you just doing a quick lap of the southern ocean.

 

[Koeketiene]

You are more than a little wrong there. Very few people choose to circumnavigate via the three great capes. The vast majority of yachts and even ships that circumnavigate do so though Panama and Suez instead of going around the Horn and Good Hope.

We're not talking cruising yachts here - we're talking any serious, professional or sponsored race or record attempt.

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

Pernham senior may not be everybodys cup of tea, but give him his due, he got the whole thing organised and sponsored on a shoestring, then with a good weatherman and lots of luck, Mike did it.

I wonder how many of us wish our dads were a bit more encouraging, forceful, motivated, enthusiastic and determined?

Mike certainly deserves a pat on the back for his achievement but boy he did seem vulnerable at times to say the least.

I wish I was as capable to sail that machine as he turned out to be.