Yacht at anchor East Head !!

[jordanbasset]

First case to appear in court
Woman who flouted coronavirus rules at Newcastle Central Station fined £660
A woman has been ordered to pay hundreds of pounds for flouting Government coronavirus restrictions in Newcastle.
Marie Dinou was arrested by a British Transport Police (BTP) officer following an incident at Newcastle Central Station on Saturday 28, March.
The 41-year-old, of Oak Tree Close, York, was then charged with failing to comply with requirements imposed under the Coronavirus Act 2020.
Her case was heard at North Tyneside Magistrates' Court on Monday.
She was fined £660 and ordered to pay a £66 victim surcharge as well as court costs of £85

 

[FlyingGoose]

Well, delee your stupid post then.

iF you were to delete all your stupid posts you would not have any, and be forced to change your Forum name again , and were would that leave democratic process of allowing an opinion

 

[Sharky34]

Ex-Suprem-Court judge Lord Sumption commented yesterday that Derbyshire police had ‘shamed our policing traditions’ and had turned themselves into ‘glorified school prefects’.

And he, shall we say, is well above all of our pay grades on such matters? Details here:
Covid-19: ex-supreme court judge lambasts 'disgraceful' policing

"Ex-judge", so is he still on the ball?

 

[Sharky34]

iF you were to delete all your stupid posts you would not have any, and be forced to change your Forum name again , and were would that leave democratic process of allowing an opinion

Can you post that again, it makes no sense.

 

[FlyingGoose]

Can you post that again, it makes no sense.

Sorry cant help you please phone this number 08000000000 they may help

 

[dom]

"Ex-judge", so is he still on the ball?

Well I did have the pleasure of meeting him once and can confirm that he is achingly and outrageously smart.

For anybody with time on their hands, his recent Reith Lectures are very interesting:
BBC Radio 4 - The Reith Lectures, 2019: Jonathan Sumption, 1/5. Law's Expanding Empire

 

[[70521]]

During my daily walk I can see a Yacht has arrived and is at anchor at East Head. Looking on AIS she is from Ramsgate maybe via Eastbourne area .

I have friends coming back from the Caribbean, because things were getting "interesting", can you let me know when they arrive. Thanks.

 

[Blue Sunray]

"Ex-judge", so is he still on the ball?

Very much so. His Reith lectures (last year I think or possibly the series before that) are also well worth a listen.

ETA beaten to it by Dom I see.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Ex-Suprem-Court judge Lord Sumption commented yesterday that Derbyshire police had ‘shamed our policing traditions’ and had turned themselves into ‘glorified school prefects’.

Taken from Durham Constabulary's website: https://www.durham.police.uk/About-Us/Documents/Peels_Principles_Of_Law_Enforcement.pdf

 

[Triassic]

Great quote JumbleDuck. You do actually understand what that is saying don't you?

 

[JumbleDuck]

Absolutely not. You can't have people using the might of the law to enforce their own prejudices and opinions.

Why not, you seem not to have a problem posting prejudices & opinions on here.

I don't and can't use the might of the law to enforce by opinions and prejudices, and quite right too. Those who can and do use the might of the law should not allow their personal biases to affect their work.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Great quote JumbleDuck. You do actually understand what that is saying don't you?

That the police cannot make up the law as they go along?

 

[FlyingGoose]

That the police cannot make up the law as they go along?

Being saying this in about 5 threads now , I do not understand why this is hard to understand the Police are not the law they uphold the law decreed by the Government and the courts ,

 

[dom]

I don't and can't use the might of the law to enforce by opinions and prejudices, and quite right too. Those who can and do use the might of the law should not allow their personal biases to affect their work.

Although, if you were given a load of medals and an African Dictatorship to go with them, you might

 

[Sharky34]

That the police cannot make up the law as they go along?

So, if they see someone in danger, they shouldn't act or warn them, because there is no law to that effect?

 

[FlyingGoose]

So, if they see someone in danger, they shouldn't act or warn them, because there is no law to that effect?

Police defend drowning death case
BBC NEWS | England | Manchester | Police defend drowning death case

Man drowned in shallow lake after firefighters 'not allowed' to rescue him
Man drowned in shallow lake after firefighters 'not allowed' to rescue him

Paramedic and police officer offered to jump in to save dying Simon Burgess but they were ordered not to
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104935/Fire-chief-told-policeman-leave-drowning-man-3ft-deep-lake-half-boot-deep.html

 

[Sharky34]

Police defend drowning death case
BBC NEWS | England | Manchester | Police defend drowning death case

Man drowned in shallow lake after firefighters 'not allowed' to rescue him
Man drowned in shallow lake after firefighters 'not allowed' to rescue him

Paramedic and police officer offered to jump in to save dying Simon Burgess but they were ordered not to
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104935/Fire-chief-told-policeman-leave-drowning-man-3ft-deep-lake-half-boot-deep.html

What has that to do with the authorities enforcing their 'Duty of Care' to employees?

 

[Triassic]

That the police cannot make up the law as they go along?

That is pretty much what it says yes, which is why I was surprised you used it to support your argument that they had acted outside the law. You haven't yet produced an example or evidence to support your argument have you?

Enforcing the law is just one of the tools the police have available to achieve their objective. They still retain the discretion to use the law as and when their judgement thinks fit. I suspect you may have benefited from that far more than you realise. Not nicking someone just because you can is not acting outside the law.

 

[xyachtdave]

A new member, wading into the forums like a pro, 500 posts in two weeks.......is this because of the 'lockdown' or and old friend returning with a new hat on...?

 

[Lucky Duck]

Was alant then scotty1234 or something like that