dnardella
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Can anyone help with a new owner to an X-412? What do you do with the mini forestay when downwind sailing with a pole?
X-412 mini forestay and using spinnaker pole
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davel
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Give X yachts UK a call.
boguing
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The 402 I used to sail had a 4:1 tackle at the bottom, we just used it to stop the mast pumping upwind, and left it loose on the runs so that we could dip pole without worrying about it getting in the way.
Twister_Ken
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Do you mean a baby stay?
dnardella
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this boat has rigging with a large(9inch) wheel that loosens the baby stay. A snap shackle then completes the disconnect. Did you just move it out of the way(i.e. connect to chainplate)?
boguing
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That sounds like an 'upgrade' that you don't need. The 4:1 that we had would be hard put to do what your wheel could, even if it were winched. We used to put it on a winch, but only to 'nip it up', not to try and bend the mast with it.
I think your boat's previous owner may have wanted mast bend (duff mainsail?).
Subject to checking the boat's original spec, I'd say get rid of it and go back to the tackle.
Then you just ease it and let it flop around on short legs, tie it off to something if it's annoying you on the longer ones.
I think your boat's previous owner may have wanted mast bend (duff mainsail?).
Subject to checking the boat's original spec, I'd say get rid of it and go back to the tackle.
Then you just ease it and let it flop around on short legs, tie it off to something if it's annoying you on the longer ones.
DOG7
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Release the tension and unclip it. This allows you to gybe the pole. You won't need it down-wind as its purpose is to offset the running backstays and allow an element of tuning of the rig upwind. I have a carabiner at the foot of the mast that I clip it to but it does rattle around and something allowing it to reach to the chain plates would be better..
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impact30
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I can't pick out a picture of the rig but basically if you have a symetrical pole and if your uphaul sheave is below your babystay, (i.e. inside) then you can do an end for end gybe inside the babystay and never take it off. This is the arrangment on all boats I have sailed with a babystay which is only 3 that I can remember.
Larger boats tend to favour dip pole but then you will have to remove the stay or dip the pole under it which could prove awkward or impossible depending on the setup.
Larger boats tend to favour dip pole but then you will have to remove the stay or dip the pole under it which could prove awkward or impossible depending on the setup.
boguing
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If it's like the 402, the deck fitting is only about 500mm from the mast front face.
It's not for putting bend in.
It's just for mast control in waves, obviously in a bit of a breeze. End for ending a masthead spi on a 40 foot boat in a bit of a breeze is not really in my comfort zone.
It's not for putting bend in.
It's just for mast control in waves, obviously in a bit of a breeze. End for ending a masthead spi on a 40 foot boat in a bit of a breeze is not really in my comfort zone.