Would you buy a “discontinued” chartplotter?

[PaulRainbow]

Foxes are selling the 722xs for £720, but I think they’ll price match, so cheers for the info pvb - I’ll give them a call. I don’t need the sonar version, but it’s what they have in. They’re trying to find an Echomap 7” for me (U.K. charts included) but these seem to be few and far between.

The Echomap is probably a better solution for you, as it includes the charts. But, i've just checked the UK distributors and they have no stock of any 7" Echomap (or GPSmap for that matter. The supply chain is currently in disarray due to Covid, last time i spoke to Garmin they were hoping to be back to normal by the end of May, i wouldn't hold my breath on that score though.

I had a quick look around and it seems pretty much no-one has much stock at all, although All Gadgets have an Echomap on their site, might be worth giving them a call ?

Garmin ECHOMAP UHD 75cv Chartplotter / Fishfinder

 

[fredrussell]

Many thanks Paul, much appreciate you having a look at current stock. I agree the Echomap would be better for me but I’m thinking the one in Foxes might be the one to go for as a) I have vouchers for Foxes, and b) these plotters seem to be a bit thin on the ground at the mo. I don’t mind paying a bit extra for a chart card, and the ability to add radar later on might be a good thing.

 

[JAH]

Yes.

I've just bought a Standard Horizon 10" for £200 second hand. It was highly rated before the manufacturer decided to focus on radios instead (they are Yaesu - well regarded for high performance radios). It takes c-map cards which are not expensive. I part-exchanged the card it came with for a 2021 version of all UK & French Channel coast. A big advantage for me is its modest depth: about 3in total; 2in of which is behind the panel. I was shocked to discover that more modern units are often 6in deep ! It came with a swivel mount that's neater than the usual stirrup type. It has a GPS antenna built-in and can take GPS NMEA input instead.

I would say don't write off older models, but of course buying secondhand is always a gamble.

 

[Boathook]

My raymarine plotter was 'current' when purchased but 6 months or so later the axiom came out. Seems to happen with most electronic items I purchase !

 

[PaulRainbow]

Yes.

I've just bought a Standard Horizon 10" for £200 second hand. It was highly rated before the manufacturer decided to focus on radios instead (they are Yaesu - well regarded for high performance radios). It takes c-map cards which are not expensive. I part-exchanged the card it came with for a 2021 version of all UK & French Channel coast. A big advantage for me is its modest depth: about 3in total; 2in of which is behind the panel. I was shocked to discover that more modern units are often 6in deep ! It came with a swivel mount that's neater than the usual stirrup type. It has a GPS antenna built-in and can take GPS NMEA input instead.

I don't know where you get your size information from, but the CP1000 is 99mm overall depth, a new Garmin 10" plotter is just 69mm

Pretty much every new plotter has inbuilt GPS and has done so for years and they will all accept GPS over NMEA, although most will be N2K now (Garmin still include an 0183 port).

 

[JAH]

I don't know where you get your size information from, but the CP1000 is 99mm overall depth, a new Garmin 10" plotter is just 69mm

Pretty much every new plotter has inbuilt GPS and has done so for years and they will all accept GPS over NMEA, although most will be N2K now (Garmin still include an 0183 port).

Perhaps I got that wrong, but Raymarine's specs for the Axiom range, while showing a bare depth of just 3in, also shows they require between 7 in and 9 to accommodate the bulky connectors and cables - I would find it difficult to accommodate that in my small boat. The specs I've seen from Garmin only give the bare depth. I was alerted to that issue by noticing just how deep the nav station's desk-top box is on many deck-saloon yachts.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Perhaps I got that wrong, but Raymarine's specs for the Axiom range, while showing a bare depth of just 3in, also shows they require between 7 in and 9 to accommodate the bulky connectors and cables - I would find it difficult to accommodate that in my small boat. The specs I've seen from Garmin only give the bare depth. I was alerted to that issue by noticing just how deep the nav station's desk-top box is on many deck-saloon yachts.

The Axiom 9 needs 2.54 inches of pod depth, plus the cables. Your CP1000 has cables too, that require some additional depth. I doubt that anyone here would describe the connectors on a modern plotter as "bulky".

By all means be happy with your CP1000, it was a good plotter in its day and for £200 it's good value, but it isn't realistic to claim that it's in any way superior to a new plotter from any of the major manufacturers.