Wonder varnish

[Charlie C]

Does anyone recall the article some time ago in mby about a wonderful new varnish that only needed two coats instead of ten? Or was it just a dream? I would like to varnish the teak cappings on my Aquastar as they are drying out badly in the med sun, perhaps this is not the best answer? Any comments appreciated.tks

 

[Bandit]

What size Aquastar ?

Are they solid teak about 30mm thick by about125mm ?

Have they ever been varnished?

 

[benjenbav]

Are you sure that wasn't the April 1st edition?

 

[Charlie C]

Hi, Aquastar 57 hull no 3. Yes guess cappings about that size , they were never varnished before and now suffering after five years of salt and sun. Best answer would have been to cover them with canvas covers when leaving the boat...bit late for that. Any suggestions? Charlie

 

[Cashbuyer]

Wessex teak cleaner and restorer is pretty good and I see they are bringing out a sealer. Never use teak oil outside-it attracts dirt and fungus and goes patchy.

I wouldn't go near a varnish on those rails. The grain will be too open by now and the finish won't last five minutes with sea air, salt, sun etc.

 

[Momac]

Are you looking for Semco sealer ?
http://www.marineteak.co.uk/semco-teak-sealer-6-c.asp

.

 

[PCUK]

Are you looking for Semco sealer ?
http://www.marineteak.co.uk/semco-teak-sealer-6-c.asp

.

That sounds very similar to Burgess Woodsealer which is another great product.

 

[Bandit]

I treat all my bare teak deck and capping rails with Boracol, one coat every 6 months, soaks well in and kills all slime, mould and algae.

Reduces temptation to clean which wears away the teak. (mine is cleaned two to three times a year).

I also treat canopies, garden furniture and the soft top of the wife's Fiat 500.

As recommended in the Halberg Rassy Manual. Admittedly it has masts and sails, but a lot of teak.

 

[LittleShip]

Having tried loads of different varnish products, including water based I have been using this for the past few years.

https://premiermarinepaints.co.uk/types/classic-yacht-varnish

I varnish in a shed in the winter months and this is easy to use gives good shine and seems to last the full year before needing a new coat.

Tom.

 

[Bandit]

Just re read your original post.

You have bare teak at the moment I think?

To varnish prepare wood and apply 6 coats assuming the weather is favourable say 80 to 100 hours work.

When I had Nelson Stle badging for it to look good you had to strip and recoat every year say 150 hours plus every year?

 

[jfm]

Never use teak oil outside-it attracts dirt and fungus and goes patchy.

I would, and do, use teak oil on capping rails. No doubt it is possible to buy the wrong stuff and apply it wrongly and have it all go bad, but it is perfectly possible to do it right and have it looking perfect and not attract any dirt. The rails and table in these pics are treated with good quality (eg Teak Wonder) teak oil only

 

[rafiki_]

I used Teak Wonder on the decking, and was underwhelmed with it JFM. I am going to give Semco a try.

 

[LittleShip]

for it to look good you had to strip and recoat every year say 150 hours plus every year?

What..... Almost 4 weeks work every year to do Varnish...... You must be doing something wrong.

Varnish work is preparation and then maintenance, do it right first and then it's two coats a year, for me, maybe two days (less than 16 hours) and I have loads of teak.

This is my teak

Tom.

 

[Asm]

I would, and do, use teak oil on capping rails. No doubt it is possible to buy the wrong stuff and apply it wrongly and have it all go bad, but it is perfectly possible to do it right and have it looking perfect and not attract any dirt. The rails and table in these pics are treated with good quality (eg Teak Wonder) teak oil only

JFM, could you please clarify your comments about your Teak treatment? Presumably the 'Teak Wonder' product is the sealer, this appears to be a silicone/petrolium product, whereas I believe traditional 'teak oil' is based on tung/linseed oils.

 

[jfm]

I would, and do, use teak oil on capping rails. No doubt it is possible to buy the wrong stuff and apply it wrongly and have it all go bad, but it is perfectly possible to do it right and have it looking perfect and not attract any dirt. The rails and table in these pics are treated with good quality (eg Teak Wonder) teak oil only

JFM, could you please clarify your comments about your Teak treatment? Presumably the 'Teak Wonder' product is the sealer, this appears to be a silicone/petrolium product, whereas I believe traditional 'teak oil' is based on tung/linseed oils.

@rafiki also. TW is a brand not a product and they make loads of products. I'm using only teak wonder teak oil, on bare sanded teak furniture, with no other products. A few coats applied with a rag. Rafiki you must have used one of the other TW range of products on your deck ( the red tin one I bet) and I agree that isn't good stuff. Obviously everything in treated teak needs canvas covers when not in use to reduce exposure to sun

 

[Asm]

@rafiki also. TW is a brand not a product and they make loads of products. I'm using only teak wonder teak oil, on bare sanded teak furniture, with no other products. A few coats applied with a rag. Rafiki you must have used one of the other TW range of products on your deck ( the red tin one I bet) and I agree that isn't good stuff. Obviously everything in treated teak needs canvas covers when not in use to reduce exposure to sun

Thanks, I did appreciate that TW was a brand. The query arose because I couldn't find a product with the title of 'teak oil' only a 'sealer', which they claim is not an oil. Yes I keep covers on the tables, but the tables are due a recoat for the season, hence my interest.

 

[jfm]

Thanks, I did appreciate that TW was a brand. The query arose because I couldn't find a product with the title of 'teak oil' only a 'sealer', which they claim is not an oil. Yes I keep covers on the tables, but the tables are due a recoat for the season, hence my interest.

ASM, I think I've mixed the names up - I apologise. As you say, TeakWonder's range of products are things other than teak oil. The product that gets used on my boat (having now checked!) is Star Brite Premiuim Golden Teak Oil. I shouldn't have mentioned "Teak wonder" at all so I'm sorry for causing confusion!

 

[Spi D]

I wrote this in a previous thread. Have since used it on my boat.

Jotun claim special properties in their Benar series

Have no personal experience with this one but am genuinely impressed with other Jotun products (like +17 year longevity on white window frames on house)

Method: 2 part cleaner, let dry, sand lightly, apply thinned by 20%, apply full strength x 2, sand lightly and apply last full strength for fínish.

Sanding is easy, so no big job.

Looks fab and has done so for one year, full time exposed to the elements. Stays a little bit elastic by the feel of it which apparently explains why it doesn't crack over time.

Still no connection.

 

[Charlie C]

Thanks for your comments, Bandit - guess you must see Aquastars all the time in .guernsey! Yes, I have bare teak cappings just now so do you think boracol would be a good idea? I don't have 150hours per yr to keep varnish up to speed...nor do I wish to pay for those hours....brgds

 

[Bandit]

Charlie

I assume your cappings are fixed right on to the GRP gunnel rather than being a hand rail raised on stainless stanchions.

If my assumption is correct these are more difficult to rub down without damaging the GRP and to mask before varnishing than the raised hand rails.

Most Aquastars have teak capping that is not varnished , a small number are varnished.

Boracol is not an aggressive cleaner as some of the other products, it kills the black mould staining and lightens the teak, it kills the green slime developing and almost eliminates the requirement to clean the teak to a couple of washes a year. I use it on decking and capping rails to lengthen the life of the teak.