Winter home for Centaur 2 on the Fal - local knowledge sought

I too would recommend Gweek Quay at the top of the Helford - as a fellow East Coaster think Maldon in the West Country - lots of lovely secure mud and a proper sailors yard with wooden boats in build and being repaired - great atmosphere just to wander round -
 
Crowblack said:
I too would recommend Gweek Quay at the top of the Helford - as a fellow East Coaster think Maldon in the West Country - lots of lovely secure mud and a proper sailors yard with wooden boats in build and being repaired - great atmosphere just to wander round -
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thanks for this

incidentally - do I need a license?

do they enforce mooring balls the way they do in Chichester harbour

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Haven't read the lot, but there is a community of liveaboards at the very top of Penryn, along the NE bank opposite Islington Wharf.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.1680016,-5.0896967,1287m/data=!3m1!1e3 Another is Sailor's creek on the NE side half way down to Flushing, lot of 'projects' there. I believe Penryn is under the Truro HM jurisdiction so may be different terms from Falmouth which has become very expensive. Gweek is a gem, 3 miles to the fecund middens of Helston and the Blue Anchor. The trip down river achingly beautiful, stopover at Tremayne
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.0908201,-5.1678456,322m/data=!3m1!1e3 quay half way to Helford, alongside, drying, hard ground SE side or soft mud NE corner by the steps, or all tide anchorage in the middle. Bicycle for good track which leads to civilisation, eventually.
 
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dylanwinter said:
thanks for this

incidentally - do I need a license?

do they enforce mooring balls the way they do in Chichester harbour

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They didn't, (licence) when l was there summer 2014 - spent month and a bit at Gweek left the boat to go home for a period felt she was very secure in the gloop - chap in a large steel ocean goer one down said he'd watch over her plus the yard were very good - useful little chandlery too for bits when you need a grommet. It's the kind of place where if you get stuck fixing something your neighbour or someone in the yard will know how it's done and they are more than likely to help - MDL it ain't.

Useful shop for victuals - a bus stop just at the yard gate to get into Falmouth for comings and goings and dare say you'd find a spot to park your car.

All that and as Fisherman says the Helford is beautiful.

Mooring balls (anchoring balls?) nope - like most places some use some don't.
 
Incidentally, according to brother current charges at Gweek are about £14.50/metre/month, and last time I enquired that was the same in or out of the water. There are several places down river where one could leave a boat on the mud, or even a beach, FoC but no vehicle access or security, of course. I often think I might indulge myself with a small catamaran or bilge keeler to keep somewhere like that. Not secure but also not accessible except by boat. Cheapskate, me? yep.
 
I have been offered a berth here at

http://www.falmouthyachtbrokers.co.uk/marina.aspx

upstream at Penrhyn for £130 a month

Mylor have indicated through the denizens of this marvellous establishment that they will make me an offer of accommodation provided I make some films for them

https://www.mylor.com/

this is their current video promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEqxWvSxpfY

what do you guys think of it?

and finally this place

http://www.falmouthhaven.co.uk/

have expressed an interest in offering me a deal in return for some films - but also via a forumite who has been in there telling then what nice films I make

Ideally two months in each making a series of films extolling the merits of the best place in the Uk for winter sailing would be good for all of them and improve their winter occupancy rates

start in Mylor to film the leaves turning yellow and the migratory birds arriving

Christmas in Falmouth itself - sparkling lights, merriment, new year aboard

and then the spring up river to film the boats starting to come to life

I have been doing this for eight years now.....

11,000 subscribers on youtube.... 3,000 views a day 1.8 million sailing film hits.... 1200 visitors a day to the website

only this year have the yachting industry started regarding me as some-one who has something to offer as opposed to being yet another wobble gob blogger blagging freebies



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VicS said:
I did nothing to promote the virtues of the place...........

The "music" was irritating

I dont like speeded up video

I am sure you could do better
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the problem for me is that there was no narrative to it

just a series of well shot and well lit images

I am reasonably confident that I can get them a few more hits

but it is good that for a while they thought it was worth putting some effort into their promotional efforts

music is always a challenge - getting good free music is hard

but my films are made with music available on youtube



burt it goes deeper than that

The problem is that every message needs a narrative - or to be associated with a narrative

Take the Nicolle adverts for Renault for example

I made a standalone promo for Jeckells that has had

2300 hits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e4iEQV730M

but when in a KTL film it has had

10,000 hits

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My belief is that the best promotional video is one that isnt a promotional video. Your tour of the HYC boatyard and subsequent trips in and out with the various mentions sold it for me.
Ditto I am sure plenty of other people - if you interject it as part of the series so that it becomes apart of the narrative, I believe that the marketing potential is far greater given the natural exposure of the piece.

People will watch the sailing films with promotion thrown in as a natural element, they would probably not deliberately watch a promotional only film., the Mylor film was hard work to watch on its own - had it been part of a greater picture I'd have been inclined to mark it down as a place reccomended by DW and therefore ok by me.
 
SiteSurfer said:
My belief is that the best promotional video is one that isnt a promotional video. Your tour of the HYC boatyard and subsequent trips in and out with the various mentions sold it for me.
Ditto I am sure plenty of other people - if you interject it as part of the series so that it becomes apart of the narrative, I believe that the marketing potential is far greater given the natural exposure of the piece.

People will watch the sailing films with promotion thrown in as a natural element, they would probably not deliberately watch a promotional only film., the Mylor film was hard work to watch on its own - had it been part of a greater picture I'd have been inclined to mark it down as a place reccomended by DW and therefore ok by me.
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That is what I would hope they want from me - just an assurance that I will film around their yard a bit and say what it is like staying there for a couple of months in the winter time.

I liked the Jeckells arrangement. I bought the cloth for £200 and then they used their labour to build the sail while I filmed it being made - which I would have wanted to do anyway.

I think we both felt good about the arrangement

For me Jeckells are the go to company for tough, well shaped cruising sails.

I might send a link to this thread to the three marinas

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Oddly (and quite unintentionally) I spent the last hour looking at passages to Falmouth and associated car/plane options - the power of suggestion...
 
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Oddly (and quite unintentionally) I spent the last hour looking at passages to Falmouth and associated car/plane options - the power of suggestion...
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I guess if two or three boat owners who normally take their yachts off the water for the winter got together they could combine forces, split the costs three ways and take one of their three boats on the Fal for the winter

sharing marina fees would make it cost effective - and driving could be shared.

Mylor is £204 per meter for the winter 6 months

I think that if there is anywhere in the Uk where winter sailing is doable for ordinary blokes then the Fal is it

above all it would be a bit of a laugh

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Branded content is probably what you are after, it's the biggest growth area in media these days......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branded_content

Branded content is a form of advertising medium that blurs conventional distinctions between what constitutes advertising and what constitutes editorial content. Branded content is essentially a fusion of the two into one product intended to be distributed as editorial content, albeit with a highly branded quality and often labeled as "sponsored." Branded content is the merger between advertising and entertainment. the content is more sophisticated than product placement because the content is embedded into the programming.
 
Gerry said:
Branded content is probably what you are after, it's the biggest growth area in media these days......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branded_content

Branded content is a form of advertising medium that blurs conventional distinctions between what constitutes advertising and what constitutes editorial content. Branded content is essentially a fusion of the two into one product intended to be distributed as editorial content, albeit with a highly branded quality and often labeled as "sponsored." Branded content is the merger between advertising and entertainment. the content is more sophisticated than product placement because the content is embedded into the programming.
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That would seem to fit the bill for a mutually beneficial arrangement regarding pontoon berths

"Producing branded content has become an extremely effective tool for advertisers in this day and age. The outcome of well made branded content can do wonders for the company producing it, but only if the content is made properly. Not only do they have to make sure that their product is being sold as successfully as possible, they also have to ensure that the content they’re producing is exceptionally well done and sort of tricks the viewer into seeing the short film as something more than an advertisement. The most successful branded content programs are able to blend the advertising message in a seamless and transparent fashion, literally making it a part of the storytelling, while still getting the information across to the consumer.[8]"


Has anyone noticed the Rolex I have been sporting in recent videos? The meths manufacturers are also major branded content suppliers for my project as are Dunlop wellies, screwfix, flag anti-foul, Aldi and the dealers in second hand Nissan micras.
 
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