will the froggies object?

[tcm]

Re: Bizarre tricks

I am still amazed that after ten years of ybw.com forums, people still leap to incorrect conclusions about other posters and use hackneyed clichés such as "to be honest" and "I am still amazed" to promulgate their leaden and lame arguments.

Referring to french people as "frfoggies" need not be perjorative. It is certainly not racist as seems to be the implication.

In fact, the assumption that all French people will respond to a positive attitude and a cheerful smile in the same positive way ..could itself be indicative of racism. One wouldn't expcta uniform response from all brits. so why expect the same from anyone else. The french have their rainbow of people, some of who are nice and forgiving, others not so nice.

Separately, the career of choice for an open-minded individual or any nationality, happy to accept the slight failings of others to folow the exact letter of the law may (or possibly more likely may not) be be as a douanier/inspector.

 

[Oliveoyl]

Re: Frogs are brits and vice versa

No, non - all vikings! The Normans were originally Norsemen who happened to integrate v well in newly acquired territories (well, once they'd got the rape and pillage thingy sorted.) Bet the vikings didn't call the ancient Gauls "frosk"

 

[landaftaf]

Re: Frogs are brits and vice versa

didnt the normans visit and carry away the pamala anderson types (baywatch wannabees), whilst the danes settled and gave us farming - until the brits killed them (well almost all of them) during an uprising

my recall of history seems to be dimming with age - hic

anyway, one could go back to the romans et al, and mention the morons in hartlepool - LOL /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ah, such a mixed past huh

who hasnt got european blood in their veins somewhere.

 

[l'escargot]

Re: Frogs are brits and vice versa

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....who hasnt got european blood in their veins somewhere.

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Half of Europe these days? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Birdseye]

Re: froggie inspctions and fines : practical advice

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HOWEVER, there is no law stopping you from re-dating flares yourself whilst in the uk! Oh yes. Sure, it might have no validity whatsoevr, and even be illegal for anyone to dare sell such flares. But that's not what you intend to do. You only plan to keep the flares on board and in that regard on your uk boat you are entirely in your rights to inspect anything and everything, and sign all the bits of paper you fancy.

So, you may inspect the flares, or any other item on the boat, and sign and apply a little "Checked" sticker to it together with the new expiry date in say three years time. It would be nice for these to have little grid of dates of "next inspction due" asa well, like a fire extinuisher thing whihc itself is rubbish cos i had fire extinguishers checked for real and then I tried one and it didn't work.

Yes, this almost dotty boat self-certification wheeze might well mean absolutely nothing to anyone but you, of course, but it willimpress the heck out of the french gendarmes.



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What an interesting thought - I'll give that a try.

Meantime, I have found Froggie (nearly put French there but in defernce to a pompous southern IT type - you know who you are..../forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) officials to be far more civilised than their yobbish British counterparts on previous visits (flares and life raft in date then!), but at the same time more efficient and much more likely to visit and inspect everything. Trouble is there seem to be three seperate organisations, and getting a chitty from one of them to say you've been "done" only seems to irritate the other lots

 

[raquet]

Re: Bizarre tricks

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well, yes you did really. You preened yourself at your lovely manners, and linked your lovely manner to lack of fine.

[/ QUOTE ]Not sure that my saying I didn’t call French functionaries ‘froggies’ actually constitutes ‘preening myself on my lovely manners’ but, slightly more to the point I did say ‘in my experience’. I did not say I hadn’t been fined – I have been – several times and always politely – I try to drive more slowly now. You could try reading the posts before responding? Just a polite thought.

 

[canalcruiser]

Re: froggie inspctions and fines : practical advice

Well well TCM s back! I wonder if its parked in The UK or somewhere else? Welcome back i did look at his private forum hear but not since about halfway.

The French powers that be can have a bad day perhaps so far ive been lucky or perhaps they think my boats so badly off theres no money spare

From this and a lot of other posts i begine to think its better south of Brest

 

[Robin]

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Suspect otherwise as youwish, but we too were very polite etc but were still fined. More fluent french speakers than I also helped "bat our corner", to no avail

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I was talking about them looking at flare dates or liferaft certificate dates etc when they have no cause to with a British registered vessel.

Not having the original Registration papers on board is an accepted offence, however pedantic it might seem. We have forgotten to take papers and passports a couple of times in the distant past and so when we saw les Douaniers on the pontoons beat a hasty retreat to the supermarket in case we were one of their random selections for a check, knowing full well that if we were, a fine was pretty well guaranteed.

 

[Barr Avel]

Re: Bizarre tricks

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I am still amazed that after ten years of ybw.com forums, people still leap to incorrect conclusions about other posters and use hackneyed clichés such as "to be honest" and "I am still amazed" to promulgate their leaden and lame arguments.

Referring to french people as "frfoggies" need not be perjorative. It is certainly not racist as seems to be the implication.



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Talk about leaping to incorrect conclusions... There was no implication of racism there!
I was merely pointing out that the use of the word is childish, and tiresome.

 

[Sybarite]

Another example of Irish colonization....

In fact Rollo was the son of Havrold Duke of Orkney which is part of Scotland and as everybody knows... Scotland was named after the Irish who invaded in the 6th century and gave their name to the conquered country which otherwise would have been called Pictland - as well as bringing with them their language and the formula for whiskey and kilts as a mode -

So France is Irish and, through Willam, so is England...

John

 

[craigsmith]

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"fly their flag upside down"

but but their flag is is mirror image when it's upside down , so no difference.

[/ QUOTE ]The "right way up" is taken to be the orientation left-to-right, i.e. pole to the left, so the blue must be on the left and the red on the right, when the flag is flying to the right. So it can be upside down.

But c'mon, how many can honestly say they could spot an upside-down Union flag? I bet most would never notice if it wasn't for the more obvious layout of the red ensign. Quick, which is correct:

/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[Sixpence]

At this time of night you expect quick answers ? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Top one /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[BrendanS]

anyone with remotely military connections will get it right instantly, even if only cadets when young, as they'd have had 3" of skin flayed off their back if they got it wrong!

 

[craigsmith]

Eh it's 1PM Friday here.

Got a few very quick responses tho I must say.

 

[craigsmith]

Well bring out the whip cos Trevera25 got it wrong! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Sixpence]

I was wrong though /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif now at 02-03

 

[ShipsWoofy]

thick-up is all you have to remember..

 

[raquet]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
"fly their flag upside down"

but but their flag is is mirror image when it's upside down , so no difference.

[/ QUOTE ]The "right way up" is taken to be the orientation left-to-right, i.e. pole to the left, so the blue must be on the left


[/ QUOTE ]I think you need to look at that again. The French flag has vertical stripes. If you rotate it about the horizontal axis (i.e. turn it up-side-down) it looks just the same. Whichever side is against the pole before rotation remains against the pole after rotation. It can be flown back to front - if there was no permanent cord for attaching to the pole - but not upside down.

I once took advantage of a cheap offer and bought a tricolour flag from an odds and ends bin. Next time in France I was completely exhausted and anchored outside the marina in Cherbourg - after putting up a courtesy flag. The next morning I had a vague idea that there was something wrong – eventually I spotted that the flag had horizontal rather than vertical stripes. Wrong country! Faced with the decision either to move north by a considerable distance or change the flag I took it down, folded it in two, and put it up sideways. It was then very small but at least it had the stripes going the right way.

 

[Birdseye]

[ QUOTE ]
The "right way up" is taken to be the orientation left-to-right, i.e. pole to the left, so the blue must be on the left and the red on the right, when the flag is flying to the right. So it can be upside down.

But c'mon, how many can honestly say they could spot an upside-down Union flag? I bet most would never notice if it wasn't for the more obvious layout of the red ensign. Quick, which is correct:

/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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Simple - the one with the little wooden toggle at the top. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif