why you can't buy a sunseeker

[tcm]

why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

I thort I'd have a rant bout Sunseeker.

My problem is that they change the models all the flippin time. Hard luck if you bought a predator 80 - the snazzier p74 was launchd a year or two later. Hard luck if you bought a Manhattan 84- now there's a 82 (ish) Motoryacht, a smaller version of the 105. This rapid turnover of models means that whatever is bought is out of date sooner. Contrast this with the policy of (say) mercedes cars, where models change lerss often, new variants/facelifts rarley make the older ones "obsolete" and so don't devalue them. Sure, your sunseeker will still be current for the first three years, but after that you'd be selling a second hand dream, an obsolete model, yesterdays's boat, and for high-ticket items this seems poor value for buyers of a new sunseeker, especially the larger models where prices are highest.

 

[aztec]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

product development old chap.. or they'd still be poole powerboats, making small speed boats with V/,^7o engines!

instead the own poole.

ahh say what you like.... what's done is done!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/s.amos/index.html

 

[ccscott49]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

It's a Japanese technique, they bring out a new model every year, to satisfy the American market, who are used to this system, mainly and of course the new number plate types in the UK! BUt I don't give a stuff about sunseekers anyway, italian style for me!! suck, suck! :- )

 

[BarryH]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

I actually wouldn't mind a Sunseeker, Something like the old xps35 would be fine. I'm not that impressed with the "new" rounded styling of the late'ish ones. So if you've got an old one knocking around thats "outta fashion" now. I'll take it off your hands at a really stupid knock down price. If the engines have volvo on them tho, I don't want the "sold as seen" or "no warrenty given" rubbish written on the bill of sale. In fact I want a full warrenty for the next 10 years covering parts, labour, towage, storage and all the other costs that are involved when the thing goes wrong.

Wha'dya mean "I'm always playing with this engine" its the only way to get it to run!

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Coz' Sunseekers, especially the bigger ones, are bought by flash rich gits who are used to changing their cars and wives every year (actually thats not a bad idea) and would no more be seen in last year's Sunseeker than last year's Armani suit. Basically, a boat is a fashion accessory for this market segment. Sunseeker have been really clever in tapping into this lifestyle and have loads of export awards to prove it

 

[wakeup]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Agree with you, Sexseeker don't seem to have a committment to protect their customers long term interests by churning models all the time. But it doesn't seem to stop them selling boats which must say something about their customers also.

Mind you the at the alternative end of the spectrum is Broom, would you really want to stay with some of their design ideas for more than a year, now there is a company that is stuck in the seventies.

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[brianrunyard]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Living near Poole it appears that the main requirement in purchasing a Sunseeker is to have the brain and any common sense and curtesy removed.
The attitude by some owners appears to be, "If I can afford a Sunseeker I can do as I like".

Brian
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brunyard

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Broom

Oooh, I cant let that last comment go! If design ideas like side decks you can actually walk on, 100% solid guardrails, integrated step in the side of the boat to help you board, protected outside helm position, proper engine access, floorboards marked for location and orientation so that you can put them together after you've ripped them up, labelled sea cocks and quality way above the other mainstream manufacturers is 'seventies design' then I'm Gary Glitter.... perhaps not............then I'm a Bee Gee

 

[wakeup]

Re: Broom

Dear Mr Glitter,

Yeagh but wheres the passion in the design of a Broom!!! The most fantastic cars are the most impractical.

The equation form following function and function following form is a difficult one to balance even more so with boats than cars. I think that Broom and Sexseeker are examples of the two opposing ends of this equation.

Getting the balance just right is always difficult because one man's view of just right is another man's view of impractical. Thats what makes boating and boats so interesting and thats why we have the bearded, pipe smoking, arran sweater brigade with the Brooms and the Leopard skinned trophy wives and bentley brigade with the sexseekers.

I knew a Broomy couldn't let it lie ;-)

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[ccscott49]

Re: Broom

Nothing wrong with Bentleys, WO ones anyway!!!

 

[Guest]

Re: Broom

I hate sweaters and as for pipe smoking well. I've had bikini clad girls on my Broom (well once actually a freak
sunny day off Brighton) In Northern european waters the Broom suits cos you can helm it from outside in
shirt sleaves without having to put on wet & windy gear for the fly bridge. A lot less tiring too for us old
folk. Moreover when you retire to bed you have a wonderful full width private aft cabin.
yours Adam Ant


"The Med is calling me"

 

[Guest]

Re: Broom

I hate sweaters and as for pipe smoking well. I've had bikini clad girls on my Broom (well once actually a freak
sunny day off Brighton) In Northern european waters the Broom suits cos you can helm it from outside in
shirt sleaves without having to put on wet & windy gear for the fly bridge. A lot less tiring too for us old
folk. Moreover when you retire to bed you have a wonderful full width private aft cabin.
yours Jonathan King


"The Med is calling me"

 

[oldgit]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Brooms.Wot he really means is they are pig ugly.IMHO

And the weather for the weekend is...............

 

[Guest]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Comments made by non Broom owners, well if you have ever had the pleasure of either going to sea or working on them then you will realise what quality boats they really are take the old Crowns and oceans, the same year Princess or Fairline and early sunseeker and sealines, are not anywhere near as finished off as a broom, in fact some of them are finished altogether!, nearing refit both in the engine dept and cosmetically, Brooms will be around for a long time, if you look at Brooms brokerage list you will see secondhand Sealines, Princesses and Squadrons that they have taken in partex for new Brooms, this tells me that they are not satisfied with the first purchase and therefore have decided to invest in a Broom for the obvious reasons, after sale values are much higher as well, like buying a Ford Mondeo at 18K and a bmw at 18K, 3 years later the fords worth nothing and its knackered, the bmw is still going strong and its worth more!.

Also as Mike says its a lot easier to work on and to understand, lets face it not everyone who owns a boat is in the trade or an engineer, take last week, client ring to ask me to go to his boat, I ask him what engines he has, answer, dont know but there big and green, so that narrows it down a bit. Seriously because they dont change the model every week, theres nothing wrong with that is there?, just a good boat from the oldest family builder to date.

Paul js.

 

[Guest]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Beauty in the eye of the beholder heh P37 not exactly a stylish boat either

"The Med is calling me"

 

[Guest]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Yes just look at the trouble poor old Mark T has had with his younger P35 against my Crown

"The Med is calling me"

 

[wakeup]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

No they trade the their Princesses and Sexseekers in for Brooms because its the only boat you can get a stannah stair lift fitted as an option ;-)

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[ccscott49]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Meeow, meoow! Now that was a bit catty wasn't it?

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Nah, with a Broom you dont need a Stannah coz you've got a step in the hull side. In any case, a Stannah would fit perfectly on those nice vertical flybridge ladders you find on Princelines. Brooms are all about not wasting energy clambering about which leaves you loads of energy to make use of that vast aft cabin..............

 

[wakeup]

Re: why you can\'t buy a sunseeker

Thats why the side rails are so substantial on a Broom, cause they are really are just one big aquatic zimmer frame ;-)

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