why Med brokers don't return calls?

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why Med brokers don\'t return calls?

I'm not leaping on their side, but a friend just returned from Spain where he had been investigating berthing possibilities. He's called them before hand, and then been to at least six marinas, chatting and so on, finding prices.

Of course, it's quite reasonable for him to investigate everything in detail. But having calledand discussed everything, and been around the marinas, he stil hadn't decided, and was wondering if perhaps France might be a better bet.

I only mentioned this cos I have a berth for sale. Umpteen people have called, asking wehre exactly is the marina, where is the pontton. But others wonder if I could show them the berth, altho i can't cos i'm not there. Another wanted me to send all copies of all bils, and also a plan of the marina. Several wanted a chat cos they have a berth and wondered if this or that price is right. And so on.

After a few weeks a chap called - he was actually at the marina- and asked the exact location. He called back a few minutes later, and asked some more questions, and within an hour of his first call we agreed the deal.

So the situation seems to be this - the brokers simply "know" if you're in and if you're not. Sure it would be great to have a chat, lovely to discuss the ins and outs, but there are so many window shoppers, perhaps it's understandable if we get brief details, and an invitation to proceed further. Firstand foremost, as one broker told me, nobody buys a boat or a berth without actually being there in person at some point, and once they'ev seen it they buy very quickly or not at all.

Perhaps as in other industry sectors - real buyers move faster than the dreamers.
 

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Quite agree. People should decide, not faff about. There are too many faffers. People who interview 3 gardeners and get 3 quotes just to have their garden tidied up in the Spring, type of thing. Sure, if seeing the marina bills is important, then agree subject to seeing the bills. But doing a load of due diligence then deciding, no I didn't really want it at all is faffing about. Ooh this makes me really really angry........
 

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Then I hope you get the opportunity to meet TB. She could interview a 100 gardenerers and then decide to do it herself.

Everyone is not the same.

if you work in sales. you are tought to identify buyers. It's quite easy ...and not all visual obviously.

I just think Med brokers are poor.

If I had bought a boat this time last year ( as I nearly did) I would have made EVERY expensive mistake possible. Thank goodness TB kept me under rein.

NO , Faffing CAN equal learning ...and that is good

After all, the only reason anyone makes better decisions than their peers is because they have more information. NOTHING to do with faffing.

Long live the faffers and you're welcome to go over the top of the Trench 1st, please advise if machine guns firing or not.

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Oooer, I dont agree at all "the only reason anyone makes better decisions than their peers is because they have more information"

Yes you learn a bit from faffing, but you learn more still from taking a plunge, surely?
 

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why Med brokers don\'t return calls?

Totally disagree.

I think that so many have had it so easy for so long that they've become lazy. Cos their business has just come to them and grown exponentially without any effort,.

I would suggest things are about to change though and only the best in the Med will survive. Sunseeker in Golfe Juan are a classic example. Sorry but they are rude and indifferent , and every time I get TB in the vicinity they really could SELL>

This is a view that BvdH agrees with by the way , couple of week sago he said ther eare now 37 ( yes 37?) brokers in La Napoule...he expects 10-15 by jUNE NEXT YEAR.

For others, BvdH is a well-established broker in that area and highly respected ( at least by me)

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Any other logical reasons for better decision-making.

Yes, you do learn more and faster by jumping in with both feet. I agree. I just can not afford to make TOO many expensive mistakes like that, in this case I have to take out some risk...or risk....TB.

I am a natural 2 feet first though. !!!

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Re: why Med brokers don\'t return calls?

congrats on your sale. could it be that: either the marina berth is below market price or there is a strong demand for them, or possibly, you both struck lucky. or you wanted out and he wanted in. or you could be an ace persuader.

many people (in particular, sales people) make the mistake of thinking that everyone else thinks they same way they do. many survive for years in this way without ever considering a professional approach. in the boat industry where vendors part with large amounts of cash it is often the case that the vendor is more knowledgable than the salesperson because they have done their research properly.

and as the old saying goes 'when people are buying, anyone can sell'.

where is the berth and what do they fetch?
 

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,,,,and there was me thinking you were winding me up !


I think it's a sensitive subject 'cos TB isn't but knowing when she really is goingto buy is difficult and if you don't SELL to her ( she's an IBM salesperson) then she tends to think you have no product ...

Everyone is different

Didn't appreciate that you had left LN for ever with that sale.

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ooh, i'm back at la napoule lots and lots! The marco polo at nearby Theoule isn't quite what it was a few years ago but stil very good, and one of a few places with protection from westerlies. I hoik up the ferrari flag to wind up R shumacher who has a house on the hill. Also, I still have another berth at la napoule for sale: i bought two in order to be able to eject the neighbours, ahem.
 

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Marco Polo

...In which case we must bump into one another regularly , we tend to go there unless we go to La Garoupe. Kids love the place.

Also tend to frequent 'Les Roches Roses'...the bar/restaurant in street opposite Marco Polo. VERY downmarket (or locally atmospheric depends on your point of view) particularly in winter but happens to be where M. le Maire ' Chef de Police plus Capitainerie (La Rague) hang out between hours of 11 and 3 , so kind of useful. !

Didn't know Junior lived up on the hill...I thought that area was reserved for 'couturiers'..





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