White Diesel Availability

It might not be important. My Perkins 4236 was fitted with return and when I changed the fuel filters and lines from CAV to Vetus spin on, I left out the return pipework. it's been running like that for 15 years. It will depend on lift pump design, it needs a by pass that lifts the non return ball off its seat if dead heading.
The OP's Yanmar 3jh series engine will almost certainly have a return pipe.
 
:D That would defeat the purpose! The jerry can take off lids have a return pipe as well as a takeoff. Bit of a faff plumbing it temporarily.
I ran my Betamarine engine from a 20litre can of diesel as an emergency get me home measure when I had what turned out to be a blocked tank "up pipe" due to diesel bug.
It took me longer than it should have to realise that roughly half the fuel drawn from the can was going into the tank!:oops:
 
My idea is to use the red cans with a pipe take off lid as an auxiliary tank with red diesel while in the UK as that may be all that is available this summer. Then before leaving the UK empty them by using it or selling/giving it to someone else so that when he returns to Belgium he'll have an uncontaminated main tank. . .

Another possibility for westhinder is to go the whole hog, and do similarly but using the/a main tank, as follows:
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Use red in his main tank (or one of them if he has several), then on his return aim to stop somewhere on East Coast with white diesel available, and there sell/give away (could be pre-arranged via this forum) the remaining red (might not be that much if he'd previously largely run down his stock of red), having previously armed himself with cheap fuel transfer pump, hose and jerry can. Then fill the empty tank with fresh white diesel for his return across to Belgium.

And Bob's your oom or oncle, as the case may be! 😁
 
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Could something like this be made to work for when in the uk? - plumb it in as an isolated day tank? You can ensure it’s all empty for when you return to the continent

Force 4 Fuel Tanks for Petrol or Diesel
As an idea it might appeal, but I think it would involve more plumbing than it is worth. You would also have to ensure the tank is fixed and seaworthy
 
Thanks. When I was in Peterhead on my round Britain the depth in the entrance to the marina was restricted as a result of severe winter storms. We were invited to berth at the harbour office of the professional harbour and invited up to the office by a very kind harbourmaster who told us the story of the fishing and the offshore industries at Peterhead
 
Another possibility for westhinder is to go the whole hog, and do similarly but using the/a main tank, as follows:
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Use red in his main tank (or one of them if he has several), then on his return aim to stop somewhere on East Coast with white diesel available, and there sell/give away (could be pre-arranged via this forum) the remaining red (might not be that much if he'd previously largely run down his stock of red), having previously armed himself with cheap fuel transfer pump, hose and jerry can. Then fill the empty tank with fresh white diesel for his return across to Belgium.

And Bob's your oom or oncle, as the case may be! 😁
Remains of red diesel in a tank are traceable after several refills with white, I’m afraid
 
Can you just declare the fuel in your tanks on return and pay the duty? Is the fine for not declaring it or for having it at all? If you could just declare it - even if it means paperwork that would be easier and probably cheaper than rigging up separate tanks. If it was just 20L every few day to top off the tanks then that would be part of the adventure but unless you can be flexible enough with timings to significantly avoid engine use then I think you are going to find yourself somewhere spending a whole day pushing a trolley back and forth to the petrol station. Perhaps two or three times on the trip? That would be enough to make me find a way to use red!
 
Can you just declare the fuel in your tanks on return and pay the duty? Is the fine for not declaring it or for having it at all? If you could just declare it - even if it means paperwork that would be easier and probably cheaper than rigging up separate tanks. If it was just 20L every few day to top off the tanks then that would be part of the adventure but unless you can be flexible enough with timings to significantly avoid engine use then I think you are going to find yourself somewhere spending a whole day pushing a trolley back and forth to the petrol station. Perhaps two or three times on the trip? That would be enough to make me find a way to use red!
There is no easy get out of jail card. The fine is for having red, there is no question of declaring it. Traces of red in your tank are enough to be fined not on what is left in the tank, but on the whole capacity of the tank, in my case 200L, which means a minimum of €1000.
I have resigned myself to lugging jerrycans around to keep the tank topped up.
So far I have had great experiences with people offering to drive me to the nearest petrol station. Google maps will be my friend.
 
I have resigned myself to lugging jerrycans around to keep the tank topped up.
If you don't want to install a separate temporary tank to keep your main tank uncontaminated, that's fine, but be aware with the Iran war situation that later this year, if it doesn't improve soon, you may not be able to buy white diesel in cans from petrol stations. No-one knows at the moment, but so far there is no sign that it is getting better, and diesel supply looks like it's going to be a bigger problem than petrol in the UK. Diesel is also a more critical fuel being used for farming, fishing, trucking, emergency services and public transport, which will all get priority.
 
Can you just declare the fuel in your tanks on return and pay the duty? Is the fine for not declaring it or for having it at all?
It's complicated, but basically the answer is no. The fine is for having it in your tank. This was decided when the UK was still in the EU. There are 2 EU directives. One says that fuel on which duty has not been paid must be marked and the other said that leisure craft must use duty paid fuel. The UK interpreted this as leisure boats can use marked fuel as long as they have paid the duty, and according to the letter of the 2 directives that was correct. However... the EU commission considered that the UK was in contravention of these directives and took the UK to court, and the UK lost, was fined, and told to resolve the situation. Then the UK left the EU, which resolved the situation in the UK, but the court ruling stands - EU leisure craft cannot use marked fuel regardless of whether duty has been paid. Non EU based craft can have marked fuel in their main tank only upon arrival as part of the temporary admission rules, but this does not apply to the OP.

It seems that only Belgium is strict about this. They don't fine non-EU based boats any more as they did at the start for having marked fuel in their tanks, but they still harass EU boats. Other EU nation boats, like France, Sweden, Germany and the Netherlands seem to fill up with red diesel in the UK without a problem.
 
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