fergie_mac66
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Agreed gives a nice warm light
Which oil lamps for the cabin?
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Agreed gives a nice warm light
planteater
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Top tip!. Thank you. Another advantage of the Fastnet is that the chromed version doesn't look out of place in a modern boat.
2nd_apprentice
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Had a look at some of the above mentioned lamps and found them a bit pricey. My boat came with cheap hurricane lamps and in the end I decided to stick with them. They cost a fiver so why bother with spares? The "cold blast" construction (google will tell you more about that) results in a rather bright flame, relatively clean burn (depending on quality of paraffin used) and the lamp can be used as spare anchor light etc.
Some of the chinese copies leak but that's easily taken care of or just get a Feuerhand, Dietz etc. There's also an all brass version which looks very nice, won't rust but costs a lot more.
Some of the chinese copies leak but that's easily taken care of or just get a Feuerhand, Dietz etc. There's also an all brass version which looks very nice, won't rust but costs a lot more.
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Ubergeekian
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I've used a hurricane lamp on the Jouster for years. The new boat, though, has a rather narrow coachroof and having a hurricane lamp dangling would be a bit of a pain - it would always be in the way. Hence bulkhead mounted for general lighting. I'll have a couple of hurricane lamps and a Tilley Lamp in reserve ...
Thanks for the suggestion.
prv
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Burnham Bob
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I've got a fastnet and its fine but agree about the flimsiness of the neck screwring on and it is easy to cross thread it. However, I have two ordinary hurricane lamps as well which go on the salloon table when we want a proper level of lighting. We also have electric lamps which are better for reading by. In fact the fastnet is basically decorative with some help from the hurricane lamos when we want to save the battery, however my oil anchor light is wonderful. And of course there's no drain in the battery all night long.
Seagreen
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I've fitted the larger one from classic marine, and though its very robust and pretty, doesn't really give the light that I'd like. Or rather, it does with the shade off, and is even more "romantic" with the shade on...
I have a couple of old Feurhand hurricane lights in the locker, which go on for ever, and an old fresnel-lensed anchor light I got off ebay. Kicks out the light, and looks the part.
Just a tip though. Make sure you fit a smoke shade/bell. If you put any lamp within a foot of the coachroof, the heat generated by these lamps is enormous, and if you are not careful, you will set fire to your deckhead. THIS APPLIES ESPECIALLY TO FOAM HEADINING. Obvious but sometimes overlooked.
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RobBrown
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Appropos nothing but Seagreen's tag line
Great wave of nostalgia from school...
I think it went
Caesar ad sum iam forte
Brutus aderat
Caesar sic in omnibus
Et Brutus sic in at
Latin is a language as dead as dead can be
First it killed the Romans
And now its killing me
Great wave of nostalgia from school...
I think it went
Caesar ad sum iam forte
Brutus aderat
Caesar sic in omnibus
Et Brutus sic in at
Latin is a language as dead as dead can be
First it killed the Romans
And now its killing me
Fire99
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The only lamp i've had experience with is a Tilley but if i'm brutally honest, Meths (with it's non drinky additives) really grates when warming the lamp so it wasn't a long term option.
Do the likes of the Fastnet light in the same way, warming the mantle with Meths before running on Paraffin?
Do the likes of the Fastnet light in the same way, warming the mantle with Meths before running on Paraffin?
Ubergeekian
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The Fastnet is (I hope - I've just ordered three of them) a standard wick lamp, not a pressure+mantle lamp like the Tilley. I have one of those as well: great things but as well as being blinking bright they are also blinking hot, blinking noisy and give out a blinking lot of water vapour.
Fire99
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Ah I see, so they're pure Paraffin lamps?
The Tilley was great (for the once that I tried it) but the current blend of Meths really gets to me.
Poignard
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I tried a Tilley pressure lamp in the cabin once, hung from the deckhead. Loads of light and some welcome heat. Then the bloody thing suddenly flared up and blackened the ceiling. It could have set the boat on fire so I didn't trust it after that. Now I just use the basic ones shown in my previous post.
Tidewaiter2
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"Davey Lamps" are worth a thought
ETW Thomas in South Wales still make the proper Miners Safety Lamp(though they are no longer certified for mine use)- I fitted one on a gimballed brass bracket for such a safety lamp from either Kelvin Hughes or their US equivalents catalogue to Tringa II when we bought her. ETW's Lamps are cheaper than those in the KH etc catalogues.
Worked so well, got two more Safety lamps for the conservatory at home to hang from hooks.
Overall, the lamp and gimbal did not break the bank and are sturdy.
Thing is, they are still made with the safety flare gauze in the chimmey, which if you get a gas leak means a flare not a bang, the glass is protected and they look good- brass or chrome finish, they are simple to operate, maintain and fill.
Oh and the big hook on top means you can use it as an cockpit/riding light too- they go about 12 hours on half flame and a 90%fill
Have a look at ETW's website FWIW
ETW Thomas in South Wales still make the proper Miners Safety Lamp(though they are no longer certified for mine use)- I fitted one on a gimballed brass bracket for such a safety lamp from either Kelvin Hughes or their US equivalents catalogue to Tringa II when we bought her. ETW's Lamps are cheaper than those in the KH etc catalogues.
Worked so well, got two more Safety lamps for the conservatory at home to hang from hooks.
Overall, the lamp and gimbal did not break the bank and are sturdy.
Thing is, they are still made with the safety flare gauze in the chimmey, which if you get a gas leak means a flare not a bang, the glass is protected and they look good- brass or chrome finish, they are simple to operate, maintain and fill.
Oh and the big hook on top means you can use it as an cockpit/riding light too- they go about 12 hours on half flame and a 90%fill
Have a look at ETW's website FWIW
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fergie_mac66
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Get a coleman dual fuel, lights from a match, no mantle warming, it has a variable light control at top its 200w twice the tilly.
CaptainBob
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I'm a bit of a lamp nerd. I love them!
We have a Fuerhand (sp?) hurricane which was about £15. These are "cold blast", just a wick and a reservoir, and produce not a lot of light. But they run for something like 10 hours on a fill, which is not a lot of paraffin. They are good and stable when sat on their bases, or can be hung up. No trouble whatsoever and no rusting or leaking in two years of regular (almost daily) use onboard.
Had a Tilley pressure lamp. Amazing amount of light and heat! But an amazing amount of hassle. It kept going wrong with pulsing light, weird noises. Tilley swapped out parts twice, free of charge (I bought it from new) but I gave up in the end.
Bought a Vapalux M320 off Ebay for less than £30 inc delivery. Same principle as the Tilley, but works, every time, no flaring no light pulsing. So well made! We use this as our main heating and lighting when at anchor - and sometimes when not. We've kept warm by it in our Westerly Tempest in sub-zero temperatures outside.
We also have a Fastnet. I was very dubious when I first installed it. Seems a bit flimsy compared to our Vapalux in terms of build quality. But as echoed above - it's been flawless. Not really usefull for heat. Not a vast amount of light. But lovely to have. Have to say, it's a bit more hassle to light and fill than the Fuerhand hurricane lamp, but beautiful to behold, and nice to have something fixed in place rather than loose about the cabin.
Check this out:
http://www.yacht-forum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=15
We have a Fuerhand (sp?) hurricane which was about £15. These are "cold blast", just a wick and a reservoir, and produce not a lot of light. But they run for something like 10 hours on a fill, which is not a lot of paraffin. They are good and stable when sat on their bases, or can be hung up. No trouble whatsoever and no rusting or leaking in two years of regular (almost daily) use onboard.
Had a Tilley pressure lamp. Amazing amount of light and heat! But an amazing amount of hassle. It kept going wrong with pulsing light, weird noises. Tilley swapped out parts twice, free of charge (I bought it from new) but I gave up in the end.
Bought a Vapalux M320 off Ebay for less than £30 inc delivery. Same principle as the Tilley, but works, every time, no flaring no light pulsing. So well made! We use this as our main heating and lighting when at anchor - and sometimes when not. We've kept warm by it in our Westerly Tempest in sub-zero temperatures outside.
We also have a Fastnet. I was very dubious when I first installed it. Seems a bit flimsy compared to our Vapalux in terms of build quality. But as echoed above - it's been flawless. Not really usefull for heat. Not a vast amount of light. But lovely to have. Have to say, it's a bit more hassle to light and fill than the Fuerhand hurricane lamp, but beautiful to behold, and nice to have something fixed in place rather than loose about the cabin.
Check this out:
http://www.yacht-forum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=15
Fire99
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They do look rather funky, especially with much simpler lighting. Does a Coleman kick out a reasonable amount of heat? The main appeal of the Tilley was for light and heat combined.
kingfisher
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We have one oil lamp on board, all the rest is LED. The brass oil lamp is used
- for warm cosy light
- for heating on a chilly night
We also take it outside in the cockpit when at anchor to eat/read/play cards by. Allthough one word of warning; in London St Kats, it started raining and a single drop of water fell on the glass. It simply cracked.
- for warm cosy light
- for heating on a chilly night
We also take it outside in the cockpit when at anchor to eat/read/play cards by. Allthough one word of warning; in London St Kats, it started raining and a single drop of water fell on the glass. It simply cracked.
fergie_mac66
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more than twice as much as the tilly I had.I think you can get a button push spark lighter for them aswell I think! I prefer a gas stick though
JayBee
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We have a Fastnet, which we like and also a Feurhand. A good feature of the Fastnet is that the heat shield remains vertically above the flame at any angle of heel.
We have also have a Tilley lamp and a Vapalux. The Vapalux looks like an upmarket version of the Tilley, but the glass bowls seem to be much more fragile. A very small hole in the mantle will direct a jet of concentrated heat onto the glass, which will then crack. They are expensive to replace.
We have also have a Tilley lamp and a Vapalux. The Vapalux looks like an upmarket version of the Tilley, but the glass bowls seem to be much more fragile. A very small hole in the mantle will direct a jet of concentrated heat onto the glass, which will then crack. They are expensive to replace.
Moodyjim
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Well you got me Tidewaiter, I can't find the website for miner's lamps - can you help?