Which genny?

Onan, westerbeke, for sure, ive lost count how many dead FP sets ive seen and certainly lost count how many Farryman single pot engines ive scrapped or rebuilt.

One thing id def go for is a closed cooled water circuit, in my opinion sea water cooled engine blocks on generators should be a thing of the past as there just not used often enough, therefore they just sit there rotting away.
 
I beg to disagree regarding some comments on Fischer Panda DC generators - purely as a satisfied user, who can vouch for its performance on my own vessel & several hundred similar installations. My particular model and set-up is used by the RNLI, together with several European rescue organisations and on a substantial number of military vessels. It was positive feedback on performance and reliability from these sources which influenced my own choice & I can say from usage, that this was accurate.

Each users requirements will vary and this system will obviously not suit all, but it should be worthy of consideration for those with limited space.
 
Watson47 said:
I beg to disagree regarding some comments on Fischer Panda DC generators - purely as a satisfied user, who can vouch for its performance on my own vessel & several hundred similar installations. My particular model and set-up is used by the RNLI, together with several European rescue organisations and on a substantial number of military vessels. It was positive feedback on performance and reliability from these sources which influenced my own choice & I can say from usage, that this was accurate.

Each users requirements will vary and this system will obviously not suit all, but it should be worthy of consideration for those with limited space.
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That's intriguing stuff. The RNLI surely do not run airco and proper cooking gear off batteries and inverters do they? Why is it on a lifeboat that you'd run a diesel engine to make 12 or 24v to feed the inverters, when you have two big main engine alternators to do that? I might be ignorant of lifeboat use: do they spend much time with engines off but much 230v being consumed? Is the FP arrangement for lifeboats boats on swinging moorings (in which case I can see it makes sense)?

Lifeboats, military and rescue tend not to care about odds and ends of ambient noise. The revving up of the FP genset when you turn the kettle on maybe doesn't bother them but it matters on a pleasure yacht

And vouching for several hundred other installations - that's a massive number! How come? Surely these must all be small boats not running airco, cooking, and other big 230v consumers?
 
+1
I have a FP 4.2 AC factory fit on a small Sunseeker now coming up to 9 y old 250 hrs . No probs . Barry at FP uk excellent for service parts .
Mine has the optional super silent exhaust muffler . we can sleep with it on powering up the air con if we want .
I,am not phased ( no pun intended ) with 3600 rpm , try new oil at least once a year it's easy to change .
Manual is pretty specific on the installation , I can see how many could be incorrectly installed leading to water ingress and perhaps lack of use , leads to dead engines .
Also I think if the manual is correctly followed re maintainance , that helps
Use it or lose it . Marine enviroment is harsh on unused engines , I think therein lies the problem?
Mine weighs 95 kg and is v compact consumes 1 lt per h .
I think installed all in back then 2003 cost £ 11 K factory fit .
 
volvopaul said:
Onan, westerbeke, for sure, ive lost count how many dead FP sets ive seen and certainly lost count how many Farryman single pot engines ive scrapped or rebuilt.

One thing id def go for is a closed cooled water circuit, in my opinion sea water cooled engine blocks on generators should be a thing of the past as there just not used often enough, therefore they just sit there rotting away.
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Agree entirely Paul. Looked at Panda and Pajaro and although cooling jacket is 316L I think the idea of raw water cooling sucks. At least Panda has fresh water cooling! I have however bitten the bullet and bought an Onan 4KVA set which surprisingly was about the same price as Pajero although more than FP. There is no doubt that the twin cylinder indirect cooled engine is a completely different beast and with proper maintenance should last me out..... Looking at 16000Btu aircon which runs at a claimed 4.6 amps so 4KVA should be enough to cope with start up loads. Can't get a bigger one in the hole anyway!
Thanks again to the folorum for all the advice.
 
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boatmike said:
Agree entirely Paul. Looked at Panda and Pajaro and although cooling jacket is 316L I think the idea of raw water cooling sucks. At least Panda has fresh water cooling! I have however bitten the bullet and bought an Onan 4KVA set which surprisingly was about the same price as Pajero although more than FP. There is no doubt that the twin cylinder indirect cooled engine is a completely different beast and with proper maintenance should last me out..... Looking at 16000Btu aircon which runs at a claimed 4.6 amps so 4KVA should be enough to cope with start up loads. Can't get a bigger one in the hole anyway!
Thanks again to the folorum for all the advice.
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I have just seen this thread (have been working away for a week or so). As a boat owner I have posted here a few times, but more importantly to you I am the European aftermarket manager for Cummins Onan generators.

If you need any technicial help on installing your generator or you have any queries? please drop me a PM.

Regards Anthony.
 
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