Where is it ?

[Roberto]

Where is it ?

The chart should give enough indications to deduce the location, or guess it directly

:smile:

 

[Black Sheep]

Hmm... not a lot to go on to deduce a location, but let's see what we can do...

We're looking at either a harbour on the south coast of a land mass, or at a passage between two islands.

The chart doesn't look Admiralty or Imray. That, and the lack of responses so far suggests not the UK.

Plenty of contours about, so not one of the low countries (aspect is wrong for them anyway).

Reasonably shallow inshore, so not fjord country.

Hard to make out the scale. The few lights that are shown are major lights with long visibility, so I suspect this is a smallish scale chart that doesn't show all the minor lights. The channel / entrance is thus presumably wide enough for commercial shipping. But doesn't look very deep - less than 15 metres/feet/fathoms. No sign of human settlements, unless they are under the blanked out names. But the Aero beacon indicates air traffic - an airport nearby?

If I'm reading the chart right, R.B. 24M (part) is a radio beacon? Split into three parts for some reason... but with 24-40 mile range. This suggests that we're looking at a major landfall.

The contours intrigue me. Quite high & knobbly near the south, but seems flat shoreside in the NW. Maybe there is an airport there, or major habitation that isn't showing on this scale of chart. But there's an odd line marking the northern edge of the contoured bit - seems to cut across some contours. Is it a cliff line? It seems rather irregular for that. Or is it some sort of demarcation line - maybe the lack of contours in the North doesn't indicate flat ground, but foreign ground where the chartmakers have no height data.

If the heights are in metres, 842 as the highest point is quite high - nearly a Munro in Scottish terms. If heights are in feet, then it's only a South Down's worth.

Real question is why the height close to shore? Doesn't look glaciated. Could be volcanic. Or could be uplift topography. There's something about the lakes in the SE part that remind me of the S coast of Iceland, so I'll go with volcanic.

Having just put my glasses on, I see a pipeline heading south. Presumably oil or gas. So maybe we're near an oil/gas field? Or it's part of a well-developed commercial infrastructure.

If the scale is small, then the line of latitude will be a major one.

OK enough of the clue gathering. I think I'm looking for a major landfall on the south-facing coast of one or two inhabited land masses, with port(s) and airport, probably in a volcanic area (eg Med, or West Indies), not in a glacial zone, close to oil/gas. And possibly with jurisdiction issues.

A quick Google Earth tells me that I need to narrow it down a lot more than that!

 

[michael_w]

Guantanamo Bay?

 

[Wunja]

Somewhere on the RYA practice chart?

 

[Black Sheep]

Guantanamo Bay?

I wondered that - looks good in my atlas, but all wrong on Google Earth.

But I've just found the answer! It is indeed quite a small scale - about 18 miles east-west on the chartlet. Quite distinctive once you've found it - a marvellous city, but it was driving me nuts to work out which country it was in.

An interesting challenge...

 

[Roberto]

Where is it ?

The chart should give enough indications to deduce the location, or guess it directly

:smile:

thanks, it is interesting to see how much a chart can... say. from simple observation!
It is indeed a bay entrance, land is to the north.
A hint for those who have not guessed it yet:
have a look at the two "Iso" lights... what do they tell ?

 

[[32511]]

Sydney? Havn't Google Earthed yet.

 

[Roberto]

have a look at the two "Iso" lights... what do they tell ?

"Iso V" is on the left side (port side when entering), "Iso E" is on the right side...

 

[Roberto]

Sydney? Havn't Google Earthed yet.

no, not Sydney
:smile:

 

[DJE]

A hint for those who have not guessed it yet:
have a look at the two "Iso" lights... what do they tell ?

Got it! That's a very famous beach on left of the entrance.

 

[Tradewinds]

How very Barry Manilow

 

[[32511]]

Iso V- verde- so Spanish or Portuguese speaking ,and American continent. Will now google.

 

[Roberto]

Iso V- verde- so Spanish or Portuguese speaking ,and American continent. Will now google.

Yes!

As it shows IsoV and IsoE, it is not an international chart but a local one in local language, green on the port side means IalaB, where the main languages are English (obvisouly not the case here), French (Canada) again not the case, so it's either Spanish or Portuguese.
(Let's take out Japan for the sake of simplicity, while doing this I discovered they are IalaB too.)

IsoV is the same in Spanish and Portuguese, while IsoE...




Also, isn't there a sort of big monument on the top of a 740m mountain ?

 

[Roberto]

Got it! That's a very famous beach on left of the entrance.

actually two very famous beaches :smile:

 

[jimi]

Newtown creek carnival?

 

[emsworthy]

actually two very famous beaches :smile:

And yet Barry Manilow is nowhere to be seen!

 

[DJE]

actually two very famous beaches :smile:

I hadn't spotted the clue in the lights. I just got lucky with Google Earth!

 

[Romeo]

How very Barry Manilow

Only narrows it down a little bit:

it could be "Weekend in New England", "Bermuda Triangle", "Brooklyn Blues" or perhaps........

ps ahem, could not have done that without the help of wiki....

 

[jimi]

Aha its might be MAndelson's arse......

 

[jhr]

And yet Barry Manilow is nowhere to be seen!

But I'm sure I caught a glimpse of Mike Nesmith