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Whats the Definition of a Yacht?
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Talbot
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if you take those definitions, then a displacement mobo is actually a yacht (and possibly some semi-displacement types as well - depending on your definition of fast /forums/images/icons/smile.gif)
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Alistairr
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The main question i had in my mind was "When does a motorboat become a yacht?
When i think of Yachts, i usually think of Raggies, But why do a lot of MotorBoat manufacturers market the larger Boats in their range as 'Yachts'??
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When i think of Yachts, i usually think of Raggies, But why do a lot of MotorBoat manufacturers market the larger Boats in their range as 'Yachts'??
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jhr
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Nah...
A displacement mobo is, as any gentleman will tell you, a "Motor Yacht" /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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A displacement mobo is, as any gentleman will tell you, a "Motor Yacht" /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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ari
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Re: Nah...
The yacht is the one with the red faced gentleman jumping up and down on the side deck because you passed within a mile of him...
http://www.ybw.com/cgi-bin/forums/s...0272&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&part=all
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The yacht is the one with the red faced gentleman jumping up and down on the side deck because you passed within a mile of him...
http://www.ybw.com/cgi-bin/forums/s...0272&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&part=all
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Alistairr
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Re: Nah...
In that case, What is the True Definition of a Yacht??
MotorBoat or Raggie???/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif
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In that case, What is the True Definition of a Yacht??
MotorBoat or Raggie???/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif
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jhr
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Re: Nah...
OK; here's the jhr hierarchy:
Yacht - vessel whose primary source of propulsion is sail with, usually, an auxiliary engine
Motor Sailor - a yacht, as above, but equipped with a larger powerplant. Oxymoronic, in that it neither sails nor motors particularly well (dives for cover)
Motor Yacht - a motor boat, usually big and/or opulent and often capable only of displacement speeds.
Power Boat - Hooligan element, for example, thee and me /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
I think I'll copyright this!
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OK; here's the jhr hierarchy:
Yacht - vessel whose primary source of propulsion is sail with, usually, an auxiliary engine
Motor Sailor - a yacht, as above, but equipped with a larger powerplant. Oxymoronic, in that it neither sails nor motors particularly well (dives for cover)
Motor Yacht - a motor boat, usually big and/or opulent and often capable only of displacement speeds.
Power Boat - Hooligan element, for example, thee and me /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
I think I'll copyright this!
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Alistairr
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Re: Nah...
Ok, Fair enough.
But why call it a 'Motor Yacht'??
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Ok, Fair enough.
But why call it a 'Motor Yacht'??
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itsonlymoney
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Re: Nah...
Al
I think if it's got Martinis, Gin and Champers onboard rather than Wine, Beer and Scotch. Then it's a Motor yacht. I beleive that is the true definition.
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Al
I think if it's got Martinis, Gin and Champers onboard rather than Wine, Beer and Scotch. Then it's a Motor yacht. I beleive that is the true definition.
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NYJohnB
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According to Chapman's, a yacht is a private vessel over 40 feet in length. No distinction between sail or power.
I'm not sure if Chapman's is only known here in the US so here is a link to a description of it:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...01&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=125875
John B
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I'm not sure if Chapman's is only known here in the US so here is a link to a description of it:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...01&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=125875
John B
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jhr
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Why call it a \"Motor Yacht\"?
Putting aside the Gin/Whisky/Martini distinctions, I think it's historical. If you look at old copies of MBY and other such mags, you will often see references in the second hand section to a "TSDY" (Twin screw Diesel Yacht) or "TSMY" (Twin screw Motor Yacht). I'd guess that the etymology stems from the fact that in the beginning, there were just yachts (i.e. powered by white flappy things), and then people started putting engines in them and doing without the flappy bits - at which point they became motor etc. yachts.
I really should get out more............/forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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Putting aside the Gin/Whisky/Martini distinctions, I think it's historical. If you look at old copies of MBY and other such mags, you will often see references in the second hand section to a "TSDY" (Twin screw Diesel Yacht) or "TSMY" (Twin screw Motor Yacht). I'd guess that the etymology stems from the fact that in the beginning, there were just yachts (i.e. powered by white flappy things), and then people started putting engines in them and doing without the flappy bits - at which point they became motor etc. yachts.
I really should get out more............/forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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Chris_d
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I think this is the correct definition although not sure about the 40ft bit, basicaly
comes down to 3 catagories which have many variations:
1. Ship - anything man made that floats and moves, sail or power.
2. Yacht - A privately owned ship used for pleasure only.
3. Boat - A name for a ship small enough to be carried aboard another ship
thats the gist anyway.. you can add many types to the front of each.
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comes down to 3 catagories which have many variations:
1. Ship - anything man made that floats and moves, sail or power.
2. Yacht - A privately owned ship used for pleasure only.
3. Boat - A name for a ship small enough to be carried aboard another ship
thats the gist anyway.. you can add many types to the front of each.
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NYJohnB
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Straight from Chapman's (had to blow the dust off first):
" A yacht is a power or sail vessel that is used for recreation and pleasure - as opposed to work. The term is usually reserved for boats 40 feet (12.2m) or more in length, and is also applied to prestigious government craft. "
It also says:
"Yacht deserves special consideration. It often connotes a sail or powerboat over 40 feet (12.2m) in length with luxurious accomodation. ..... In sailboat racing, however, every competing boat is a "yacht" without regard to size or accomodation."
John B
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" A yacht is a power or sail vessel that is used for recreation and pleasure - as opposed to work. The term is usually reserved for boats 40 feet (12.2m) or more in length, and is also applied to prestigious government craft. "
It also says:
"Yacht deserves special consideration. It often connotes a sail or powerboat over 40 feet (12.2m) in length with luxurious accomodation. ..... In sailboat racing, however, every competing boat is a "yacht" without regard to size or accomodation."
John B
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hagrid
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a mobo that works when you expect it to, and a pain in the rear when it dont... or is that someone thing else? answers on a postcard please
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hagrid
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a mobo that works when you expect it to, and a pain in the rear when it dont... or is that someone thing else? answers on a postcard please
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gjgm
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Tara tells me it isnt anything to do with boat length, but the category yacht can only be truely defined by having totty on-board.
Matured totty might have moved on to sailing, and a mere powerboat would never entice true totty, surely. So that just leaves yachts.
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Matured totty might have moved on to sailing, and a mere powerboat would never entice true totty, surely. So that just leaves yachts.
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Alistairr
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Thanks John, I think that is the best description yet.
Although, i'd still call a sail boat that is under 40' a Yacht.
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Although, i'd still call a sail boat that is under 40' a Yacht.
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Alistairr
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LOL
If thats the case, then I own a Super Yacht/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif/forums/images/icons/wink.gif.
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If thats the case, then I own a Super Yacht/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif/forums/images/icons/wink.gif.
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jhr
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Wife standing behind you, Alistair? nm
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Alistairr
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Re: Wife standing behind you, Alistair? nm
No, Not at all. Who mentioned the wife??/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif/forums/images/icons/blush.gif/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif/forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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No, Not at all. Who mentioned the wife??/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif/forums/images/icons/blush.gif/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif/forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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