What's the attraction of owning a BIG mobo?

jfm said:
OK, a ride in an air-entrapper has just been added to my Bucket List, as Jack Nicholson would say
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Hey, I wish you'll have more time than he had in that movie! :)
Unfortunately I can't offer you such ride, the friend of mine who had that great toy gave up racing years ago, after a bad crash.
You might ask these guys, though. They might need some crew, and I'm sure you'd love to deal also with the equipment of that rocket.
Btw, this shows also that any rule has its exceptions. I just told that a 22' boat is the best for adrenalin, and this is actully a huge 56'. But at 250mph or so, they surely will get some adrenalin anyway...
 
LittleSister said:
No, I think you'll find the elephant in this particular room is a little (ahem) more psychological.
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In some rooms, definitely.......but from what I understand of the bigger boat operators in this room, I'd say no.
Usually the sort of boat owner that is only interested in size for sizes' sake, is an amateur, which is definitely not the case here.

A devoted/experienced boater is going to find what size/shape/kind that suits them, and make it happen. You will not find peace until that day......:)
 
Interesting read. I know the OP mentioned 50'+ as a large boat and sussequent post refer to the benefits.
I was wondering, in people's opinion how far down in size do you have to come to lose most of those benefits.
I have a 27' and intend sometime not too far into the future go up to a twin engine 38' ish. Is that still small? Would there be a significant difference in the performance in rougher conditions? Is it likely to still be very poor compared to 50'+?
As far as creature comforts go, with just two of us I think the 38 would be fine.
Doesn't a smaller size also give access to more inland stuff. Nosing a bit further up rivers etc. Even on the broad canals in the UK some bridges won't tolerate too much of an airdraft.
In fact, for two of us, could a 38' be seen as almost the optimum size??

Like the look and layout of the Cytra Ambassador 38. Anyone know anything about them or owned one??

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arthor
 
A big mobo is nice at sea because you dont have to slow down for much and there is room for everyone. I Once had a 55ft steel mobo and the only thing that would slow that down was a force 7+. Even though she only did 9knots you could get there before smaller faster mobos because they had slowed down even more. I now have something that will do 20knots+ because I got fed up with 9Knots.
 
Recognising that you can never tell a mother, her baby is anything other than beautiful, I guess most of us would say that our current pride and joy is optimal.

We have a 33 footer, my having started in sailing dinghies, to yachts, then a 22ft cuddy, to 25" to our current pride and joy, which meets all our requirements at the moment.

I could envisage the day when we move up to a 36" fly, but we will have to be on the coast, and living in the Midlands, this would reduce the time we can spend on-board.

In terms of fun, i really enjoy sailing, but again, this is impractical in the Mids unless you count puddles. I did puddles to death with my windsurfer, when I was young enough to enjoy freezing water.

So as a fairweather sailor, I really enjoy my nice warm, clean, comfy mobo.
 
Suprised to be the one mention to mention this but surely a key factor in whether you can do longer cruises is as much governed by range as anything else?

When I look at the reviews in the mags of all the boats to go on my lottery list, range is one of the things I look at and console myself that I can go just as far as the new, bigger etc boats. I'm fortunate that in our dear old lady we have a hull that will tolerate adverse conditions although we do get wet.

So in your best John Cleese:

Apart from:
Time on the water
Living space
Chill out factor
Sleeping on board
Eating on board
Extended cruising
Comfort
Fun and relaxation
Weather ability
Overnighting on the anchor away from those awful caravan park marinas
Can use tender for a buzz

what would a bigger boat ever do for us :-)

And just for the record when the lottery numbers come up I reckon the 40-50ft range is where I will start looking
 
Suprised to be the one mention to mention this but surely a key factor in whether you can do longer cruises is as much governed by range as anything else
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Reading that I thought you were going to say time.
I take the point that you can go further and in a wider range of weathers in 50ft+, but that assumes you have the time too.If you are going to spend most of your boating w/ending, the long cruising advantage of a "big" boat seems a bit diminished.
 
I’m assembling a syndicate for a really big boat, but it is definitely for those who don't want self-drive kicks (or responsibility!). The objectives are all the things that JFM, OceanFroggie, Mr.Completely, Nick_H and lots of others hit on the head. It’s about combining hotel comfort and being able to go pretty well anywhere on the water, and then having the best toys for the adrenalin. For some owners who don’t do it often, self-drive can start to get a bit scary in something around 65 -70 ft., so they need at least a part-time skipper/engineer. But at that size it’s still a self-catering holiday for WAGs, who certainly wouldn’t contemplate ever actually going out alone with a bunch of girlfriends. Our partners are looking at sharing a 110ft motor catamaran, with a crew of 6. It’ll be a fully staffed, moveable 6 double bedroom villa that moves from the Med in the summer to the Caribbean for the winter, but will do 25kts from place to place and be very stable both under way and when moored. Cost for each of 8 of will be about the same as a well equipped 60 footer, i.e. €1 million. Design is done and construction starts probably October. Still have a couple of vacancies – PM me if interested!
 
stevelast said:
I’m assembling a syndicate for a really big boat, but it is definitely for those who don't want self-drive kicks (or responsibility!). The objectives are all the things that JFM, OceanFroggie, Mr.Completely, Nick_H and lots of others hit on the head. It’s about combining hotel comfort and being able to go pretty well anywhere on the water, and then having the best toys for the adrenalin. For some owners who don’t do it often, self-drive can start to get a bit scary in something around 65 -70 ft., so they need at least a part-time skipper/engineer. But at that size it’s still a self-catering holiday for WAGs, who certainly wouldn’t contemplate ever actually going out alone with a bunch of girlfriends. Our partners are looking at sharing a 110ft motor catamaran, with a crew of 6. It’ll be a fully staffed, moveable 6 double bedroom villa that moves from the Med in the summer to the Caribbean for the winter, but will do 25kts from place to place and be very stable both under way and when moored. Cost for each of 8 of will be about the same as a well equipped 60 footer, i.e. €1 million. Design is done and construction starts probably October. Still have a couple of vacancies – PM me if interested!
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Shame about having the crew - I wouldnt spend that kind of money and have someone else have all the fun.
 
Hurricane said:
Shame about having the crew - I wouldnt spend that kind of money and have someone else have all the fun.
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I'm sure they'll let you volunteer to help out! Seriously though, is there a size point where many owners become uncomfortable about for example getting in and out of crowded harbours? In another life I flew boeing 747s and found manouevring it on the ground raised blood pressure more than anything else!
 
stevelast said:
In another life I flew boeing 747s and found manouevring it on the ground raised blood pressure more than anything else!
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Well, that's understandable, considering that taxiing is one of the very few moments when a computer can't take care of everything... :D

Re.your question, nope, I don't think there is such thing as a specific size point where "many owners" become uncomfortable. It mainly depends on individual experiences.
 
MapisM said:
Seconded 100%!
Not to mention that you would continue to spend your money to pay for the fun someone else is having...
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Seconded too! One would also need to be very sure one likes the project long term, because one won't get anything like €8m when one comes to sell a 110' motorcat, or €1m when one comes to sell a share which is 1 week out of July/August and two weeks out of the Caribee season. That's a longwinded way of saying I don't get the economics of €8m +6 crew on a 110'er
 
stevelast said:
I'm sure they'll let you volunteer to help out! Seriously though, is there a size point where many owners become uncomfortable about for example getting in and out of crowded harbours? In another life I flew boeing 747s and found manouevring it on the ground raised blood pressure more than anything else!
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Its not just the "helping out".
Its the challenge of the whole thing.

The satisfaction I get from owning and maintaining a boat - selecting equipment and treatments - even cleaning - all the "ups" all the "downs"

The whole "skippering" bit - planning - doing new things - making the "unknown" "known"
The worry is part of the challenge and in the end, the satisfaction.
Everything usually comes out well in the end and thats the satisfying bit - anyone with enough money can pay for someone to do it - the challenge is doing it yourself.
 
Hurricane said:
Everything usually comes out well in the end and thats the satisfying bit - anyone with enough money can pay for someone to do it - the challenge is doing it yourself.
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Each to their own but I fully agree with you Hurricane. Rest assured I'll be keeping up traditions by NOT hiring a skipper for my next boat :-)
 
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