absit_omen
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What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
..........if you can get one from the CA upon paying 110 quid or so?
..........if you can get one from the CA upon paying 110 quid or so?
What's so special about a Blue Ensign.........
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Lizzie_B
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
It's a mark of recognition for the Club's contribution to sailing over the years, not yours. Once joining the club, the hope is ( though often in vain), that members will uphold and further those traditions. Of, course, you and your boat do have to meet certain criteria, but most British members would.
It's a mark of recognition for the Club's contribution to sailing over the years, not yours. Once joining the club, the hope is ( though often in vain), that members will uphold and further those traditions. Of, course, you and your boat do have to meet certain criteria, but most British members would.
absit_omen
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
So why do so many people apparently despise this simple indicator of membership of such a worthwhile Association?
So why do so many people apparently despise this simple indicator of membership of such a worthwhile Association?
john_morris_uk
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
Good question - there appears to be a sort of inverted snobbery going on.... I am sure there are good and bad boat owners whose boats wear the Blue. Perhaps the bad ones seem to get noticed a lot more when a Blue Ensign is on the stern and give the others a bad name?
Good question - there appears to be a sort of inverted snobbery going on.... I am sure there are good and bad boat owners whose boats wear the Blue. Perhaps the bad ones seem to get noticed a lot more when a Blue Ensign is on the stern and give the others a bad name?
Cornishman
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
Spot on, John.
Spot on, John.
PeteMylett
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
The Blue ensign from the CC is 'defaced' with the club's logo. I guess this differentiates it from military people who fly an undefaced one (I think)
The Blue ensign from the CC is 'defaced' with the club's logo. I guess this differentiates it from military people who fly an undefaced one (I think)
A_7
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
The military ones are de-faced. For example our Royal Artillery Yacht Club one has a cannon on it. Incidently we have never enountered any animosity from other yachtsmen for flying it.
The military ones are de-faced. For example our Royal Artillery Yacht Club one has a cannon on it. Incidently we have never enountered any animosity from other yachtsmen for flying it.
snowleopard
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
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Good question - there appears to be a sort of inverted snobbery going on...
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It seems to be that wearers of the red think "He's got a blue ensign. He probably thinks he's better than me so I won't talk to him in case he is rude to me"
Pride & prejudice?
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Good question - there appears to be a sort of inverted snobbery going on...
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It seems to be that wearers of the red think "He's got a blue ensign. He probably thinks he's better than me so I won't talk to him in case he is rude to me"
Pride & prejudice?
Lintie
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What\'s special
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Good question - there appears to be a sort of inverted snobbery going on...
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It seems to be that wearers of the red think "He's got a blue ensign. He probably thinks he's better than me "
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Too right.
Is that a lot of otherwise quite sensible people get all worked up about it. I'm not a big fan of the phrase "get a life" but it does seem quite apt when applied to people who insist on reading all sorts of messages into the colour of a flag.
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Good question - there appears to be a sort of inverted snobbery going on...
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It seems to be that wearers of the red think "He's got a blue ensign. He probably thinks he's better than me "
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Too right.
Is that a lot of otherwise quite sensible people get all worked up about it. I'm not a big fan of the phrase "get a life" but it does seem quite apt when applied to people who insist on reading all sorts of messages into the colour of a flag.
nightjar
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
What connection does the RAF YC have with the RAF ? Nice air force blue ensign with roundels must be unique.
What connection does the RAF YC have with the RAF ? Nice air force blue ensign with roundels must be unique.
Becky
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
This is something I have pondered upon as HWMBO is quite obsessed with his blue ensigns. We have one as members of the Little Ship Club, but I was pushed into joining the CA early this year, and it transpired that the reason was that he could then get another blue ensign (we both had to be members). How silly!
We also have a red ensign left over from when I had my own boat, so we have enough to have one at the stern, one at the masthead and another at the bow.
Well, at least it would look quite pretty!
Must say that foreigners seem quite confused by the British penchant for different ensigns, defaced or otherwise.
Can't for the life of me see what difference it makes. The red one looked nice to me.
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Who says what is right or wrong when it comes to flag etiquette, anyway?
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This is something I have pondered upon as HWMBO is quite obsessed with his blue ensigns. We have one as members of the Little Ship Club, but I was pushed into joining the CA early this year, and it transpired that the reason was that he could then get another blue ensign (we both had to be members). How silly!
We also have a red ensign left over from when I had my own boat, so we have enough to have one at the stern, one at the masthead and another at the bow.
Well, at least it would look quite pretty!
Must say that foreigners seem quite confused by the British penchant for different ensigns, defaced or otherwise.
Can't for the life of me see what difference it makes. The red one looked nice to me.
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Who says what is right or wrong when it comes to flag etiquette, anyway?
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snowleopard
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Remember the Frost Report?
...I look up to him because he has a White ensign. I look down on him because he has a Red ensign. I have a Blue ensign....
...I look up to him because he has a White ensign. I look down on him because he has a Red ensign. I have a Blue ensign....
Sgeir
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Re: Remember the Frost Report?
TWTWTW methinks?
TWTWTW methinks?
snowleopard
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Talbot
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
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The military blue ensigns are de-faced
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Only the Army and Air Force ones. RN are the proper jobs.
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The military blue ensigns are de-faced
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Only the Army and Air Force ones. RN are the proper jobs.
Lizzie_B
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
The RAF Yacht Clubs ensign is dark blue defaced with an RAF eagle.
It was originally set up by a group of RAF officers, but it's membership is open to all regardless of any RAF connections.
The light blue RAF ensign is worn by the RAF sailing association, which is the official body responsible for promoting the sport of sailing within the RAF. It's membership conditions are quite restricted.
The RAF Yacht Clubs ensign is dark blue defaced with an RAF eagle.
It was originally set up by a group of RAF officers, but it's membership is open to all regardless of any RAF connections.
The light blue RAF ensign is worn by the RAF sailing association, which is the official body responsible for promoting the sport of sailing within the RAF. It's membership conditions are quite restricted.
Lakesailor
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Re: Remember the Frost Report?
I get a pain in the neck. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I get a pain in the neck. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
A_7
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
Am I right in thinking:
Red Ensign - Numerous
Blue Ensign (Defaced) - Fairly common
Red Ensign (Defaced) - Rare
Blue Ensign (Not defaced) - Very rare
White Ensign - Very, very posh
I can see how it is confusing to the French!
Am I right in thinking:
Red Ensign - Numerous
Blue Ensign (Defaced) - Fairly common
Red Ensign (Defaced) - Rare
Blue Ensign (Not defaced) - Very rare
White Ensign - Very, very posh
I can see how it is confusing to the French!
absit_omen
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
Talbot is wrong. Royal Engineers Yacht Club is undefaced.
Anyway, the question remains. I can understand any sort of 'elitist' being despised (although not for any logical reason). Why despise someone who has merely paid the price of a pair of trainers for permission to wear a defaced Blue Ensign.
The CA is not elitist, you don't have to be approved, or have your name down from birth (like the MCC). Why then, is a member of this Association so often castigated because of the colour of his colours!
Talbot is wrong. Royal Engineers Yacht Club is undefaced.
Anyway, the question remains. I can understand any sort of 'elitist' being despised (although not for any logical reason). Why despise someone who has merely paid the price of a pair of trainers for permission to wear a defaced Blue Ensign.
The CA is not elitist, you don't have to be approved, or have your name down from birth (like the MCC). Why then, is a member of this Association so often castigated because of the colour of his colours!
Lizzie_B
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Re: What\'s so special about a Blue Ensign.........
The Ministry of Defence (Navy). /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
The Ministry of Defence (Navy). /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
