What would you do with selfish people?

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Anchored in a dream little bay in Skopia Limani, Turkey the other night - just us and big blue stink boat called Capri - Seycelles flagged.

All was lovely 'till about midnight, when Capri ramped up the volume and the karaoke started. I've stood in front of the speakers at Glastonbury in my youth and that was quieter!

A few shouts from us between tracks suggesting that maybe they might turn down the volume were greeted with hoots of laughter.

I think we finally got some sleep at 06.00.

The songs sounded like Ukrainian or some such ilk, and there were 6 burly young blokes and assorted floosies on board so my wife and I, being in our 50's, felt that boarding them and throwing the sound system overboard was not an option. Yes, we could have moved, but that would have meant finding another stern line anchorage in another bay - not the best of fun in the middle of the night. And Jean was muttering "Let's ram them when we go!".

When we lifted the anchor later that morning, we passed close by and gave them a mouthfull about what we thought, but their reaction was "Simply, my dears, we don't give a damm."

Felt so helpless - and blown away at how selfish they were.

What would you have done?
 
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There would have been a time when I would have got very hot and heavy. Now I am afraid I would have quietly moved somewhere else. I am aware of all the arguments against moving, but nonetheless I would.

Mostly, stress is optional and I opt not for it.
 
A couple of parachute flares into the cockpit as a parting gesture might have done the trick.

We had a similar incident in Chichester Marina early this year, we got back to our boat after a dinner at the CYC. Our boat was on the end of the pontoon, the mobo opposite us was holding a similar party. Trouble is, you just don't know what people will do if you complain. In our case I summoned a third party, I phoned the marina office and claimed to be somewhere/someone else in the marina, I had to complain twice, each time the nightwatchman came out and it wasn't 'till his second visit about 2 AM did they shut up.
 
Similar problem in Port Solent ...
Little Bro walked up to them - said that normally he wouldn't mind the music, but we were trying to have a quiet evening and walked back ... I think the bloke (it was a couple) walked up to our bow, saw how many of us there were on board and walked back ...
Normally though we'd just plug our own iPods in and go to sleep to the music we want to listen to!
 
Can understand your position & anger Peter.
I think the problem is highlighted because you feel intimidated because there is nothing you, as a person normally in control, can do about it. Its the way i felt. Its very frustrating & makes you so angry.

Now, don't take that as a criticism, its not meant to be. I take this approach to it because I have been in exactly the same position on a number of occasions. I am the same age as you, in a very very similar position, and i allowed my anger to boil over, once. Nearly got into serious trouble. Wiser council said just ignore the buggers, are you going to ruin the idealistic life style you've chosen because of a bunch of ars****s. I nearly did.

I have a 5 foot square steel bowsprit and boy o boy how i would have just loved to be able to up anchor and ram the bastids. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Nowadays I do my best to ignore them and have found that one of those pressurised canister gas fog horns going off a few feet from there boat at 0600 as you depart does give some form of satisfaction. smile smile smile.
 
"What would you do with selfish people?"

I'd turn up the music - I just can't understand people who think they own the entire bay ;-)
 
What would you have done?

probably ended up having a big row with the OH trying to stop him from going and having it out with the selfish b*****ds.

the joy of sailing though is selfish neighbours don't have to be neighbours for long. think of what the poor people have to put up with that have the misfortune to live on land next to this lot!
 
We had the same in Turkey last year. SWMBO was impressed by the luxury yacht that joined us in the bay. When they decked the table for eight on the upper deck, she said she would like some of that (I was observing through the 7x50 how professional the hostess was decorating the table). But suddenly after dinner, they turned up the music. SWMBO wanted me to go over and say something (where is your equality between genders now, he). I replied tha this is apparently the "play your music of choice at your volume of choice"-bay. Ducked down, turned on the cockpit speaker at full pelt, selected a nice list of traditional flemish emotional songs and added to the volume. Every time they turned down their music, I turned mine up, and vice versa.

I have a particular playist on the ipod with crappy techno music mixed with traditionals. Christmas music seems to work too.

In Cowes this summer, we were kept awake untill 0300 by a group of overpampered youth on daddy's yacht. It was so nice to wake at 0600 and hold a thorough discussion on that mornings shopping list just next to the offending boat, in the direction of their open hatches.

tit for tat, I say.
 
We had the same in Turkey last year. SWMBO was impressed by the luxury yacht that joined us in the bay. When they decked the table for eight on the upper deck, she said she would like some of that (I was observing through the 7x50 how professional the hostess was decorating the table). But suddenly after dinner, they turned up the music. SWMBO wanted me to go over and say something (where is your equality between genders now, he). I replied tha this is apparently the "play your music of choice at your volume of choice"-bay. Ducked down, turned on the cockpit speaker at full pelt, selected a nice list of traditional flemish emotional songs and added to the volume. Every time they turned up their music, I turned mine up, and vice versa.

I have a particular playist on the ipod with crappy techno music mixed with traditionals. Christmas music seems to work too.

In Cowes this summer, we were kept awake untill 0300 by a group of overpampered youth on daddy's yacht. It was so nice to wake at 0600 and hold a thorough discussion on that mornings shopping list just next to the offending boat, in the direction of their open hatches.

tit for tat, I say.
 
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Anchored in a dream little bay in Skopia Limani, Turkey the other night - just us and big blue stink boat called Capri - Seycelles flagged.

All was lovely 'till about midnight, when Capri ramped up the volume and the karaoke started. I've stood in front of the speakers at Glastonbury in my youth and that was quieter!

A few shouts from us between tracks suggesting that maybe they might turn down the volume were greeted with hoots of laughter.

I think we finally got some sleep at 06.00.

The songs sounded like Ukrainian or some such ilk, and there were 6 burly young blokes and assorted floosies on board so my wife and I, being in our 50's, felt that boarding them and throwing the sound system overboard was not an option. Yes, we could have moved, but that would have meant finding another stern line anchorage in another bay - not the best of fun in the middle of the night. And Jean was muttering "Let's ram them when we go!".

When we lifted the anchor later that morning, we passed close by and gave them a mouthfull about what we thought, but their reaction was "Simply, my dears, we don't give a damm."

Felt so helpless - and blown away at how selfish they were.

What would you have done?

Well that's strange, You would apear to be worldwise people but just think how awfull it must be for them on the dastedly Capri, Imagine living their lives inside their inward facing and clostrofobic shells. That's why they are as you say SHELLFISH. not worth even giving them a thaught. Chris
 
I remember discussing this problem with some Americans in Rodney bay, moored close to the bar which kept its loud music going till 5am. Their solution was to close the hatches and turn on the air conditioning. We of course didn't have a/c but we found that the white noise from a fan made the problem much less.
 
Anchored in a dream little bay in Skopia Limani, Turkey the other night - just us and big blue stink boat called Capri - Seycelles flagged.

All was lovely 'till about midnight, when Capri ramped up the volume and the karaoke started. I've stood in front of the speakers at Glastonbury in my youth and that was quieter!

A few shouts from us between tracks suggesting that maybe they might turn down the volume were greeted with hoots of laughter.

I think we finally got some sleep at 06.00.

The songs sounded like Ukrainian or some such ilk, and there were 6 burly young blokes and assorted floosies on board so my wife and I, being in our 50's, felt that boarding them and throwing the sound system overboard was not an option. Yes, we could have moved, but that would have meant finding another stern line anchorage in another bay - not the best of fun in the middle of the night. And Jean was muttering "Let's ram them when we go!".

When we lifted the anchor later that morning, we passed close by and gave them a mouthfull about what we thought, but their reaction was "Simply, my dears, we don't give a damm."

Felt so helpless - and blown away at how selfish they were.

What would you have done?

I would have gone past at about 7 in the morning & given them a dose of their own treatment.....Make as much noise as possible just when it effects them most during the period of their hangovers.
Sounds like a tape of an engine backfiring might be appropriate:)
 
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