What sort of anchor is this

[prv]

is a CQR really that bad that I should replace it?

Not unless you want to.

People have been using them since the 1930s with reasonable success. Yes, there are better ones available now, but that doesn't suddenly cause the old types to get worse. It sounds like you rarely anchor, and that not in problematic conditions, so it's not really a priority. I never replaced the large CQR on my previous boat, though I do plan to splash out for a Spade on the new one.

I suspect CQRs are probably still the most common type of anchor seen on the average older British yacht.

Pete

 

[sailorman]

Genuine CQR`s are std equipment on new Oyster yachts

Anchoring is obviously another contraversial subject.

I can't really comment on the holding power of the anchor, I only used it twice, once off Cardiff and once of Watchett, both in fairly calm conditions. It set easy enough and held ok through the change of tide while waiting to get into the marinas.

Assuming it's not a dodgy cast one, is a CQR really that bad that I should replace it?

 

[viking2]

the anchor a CQR copy was stowed @ the stem head, he had a line through the cross bar to the flukes to pitch the flukes sideways.
he T-Boned a navigation by off of Harwich whilst under motor.

Thanks Sailorman. I was just curious ...

 

[vyv_cox]

Genuine CQR`s are std equipment on new Oyster yachts

And brass seacocks and skin fittings are standard equipment on new Hallberg Rassys, Malos, Najads, X-yachts, Dufours and several more, possibly even including Oysters. Doesn't mean their selection is the optimum.

 

[john_morris_uk]

I missed that........ Old age must be creeping up on one of us

My apologies - I was answering on my phone and I agree that I was having a senior moment!

 

[Slocumotion]

............ is a CQR really that bad that I should replace it?

Forum wisdom :-
YES/NO/IF YOU LIKE;
it's a
DEATH TRAP/ DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN/ TRIED AND TESTED DESIGN;
THEY DON'T MAKE THEM LIKE THAT ANYMORE/ THERE'S A VERY GOOD REASON THEY DON'T MAKE THEM LIKE THAT ANYMORE
if you
DO/DON'T
replace it immediately,you're a
WISE MAN/DANGER TO YOURSELF AND OTHERS/FOOL WITH MORE MONEY THAN SENSE

 

[onesea]

Forum wisdom :-
YES/NO/IF YOU LIKE;
it's a
DEATH TRAP/ DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN/ TRIED AND TESTED DESIGN;
THEY DON'T MAKE THEM LIKE THAT ANYMORE/ THERE'S A VERY GOOD REASON THEY DON'T MAKE THEM LIKE THAT ANYMORE
if you
DO/DON'T
replace it immediately,you're a
WISE MAN/DANGER TO YOURSELF AND OTHERS/FOOL WITH MORE MONEY THAN SENSE

7th post and you have worked out how anchor threads work thats no fun... We will never get you wound up on one D

 

[sailorman]

But they are expensive & British made

And brass seacocks and skin fittings are standard equipment on new Hallberg Rassys, Malos, Najads, X-yachts, Dufours and several more, possibly even including Oysters. Doesn't mean their selection is the optimum.

 

[Neeves]

CQRs - are they still really made in Scotland?

 

[longjohnsilver]

Perhaps "New Generation" would have been a better term than my use of "modern"? VicS has answered with a list I would support.

And what I was trying to say without opening a can of anchor worms was that I had bought a Spade anchor, although despite all the bluster and hot air that some people spew over the subject of anchors, I don't believe there's a lot to choose between the anchors on Vics's list.

I do know that our Spade is a MUCH better anchor than the large (genuine) CQR we had ever was. As a friend said, "It sticks like glue!"

But I don't want to start an anchor debate....

John, how would you rate a Rocna?

 

[SteveSarabande]

I checked the writing today. It says 25 CQR PAT PEND. It does have what looks like a weighted tip.

 

[sailorman]

I checked the writing today. It says 25 CQR PAT PEND. It does have what looks like a weighted tip.

does it mention S & L "Made in Scotland"
the 25Lb is correct if the above isnt mentioned it will more than likely be a cast iron model

 

[SteveSarabande]

does it mention S & L "Made in Scotland"
the 25Lb is correct if the above isnt mentioned it will more than likely be a cast iron model

No mention of scotland, so i guess it is a cast iron one.
Is 25lb heavy enough for a 27ft yacht?

 

[sailorman]

No mention of scotland, so i guess it is a cast iron one.
Is 25lb heavy enough for a 27ft yacht?

Yes quite heavy enough ,see #6 that was CI

 

[VicMallows]

I ditched my GENUINE, MADE-IN-SCOTLAND CQR when the flukes rusted to the point that there was a 2inch hole in one. The pintle and corresponding socket were also worn at the lower (open) end to the point that they might easily have separated under severe strain. About 22years average use. Did I anchor too often?

 

[charles_reed]

It came with the boat. What type of anchor is it?

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It's a cast plough - and should not be mistaken for a genuine CQR.

It is liable to break its shank, does not penetrate and instead of re-setting waves its flukes in the air.

I had one and found out all its horrid attributes until it was replaced by a genuine CQR. These have, since the end of the 2nd World War, been forged with a Made in Scotland stamped on the shank.
The fluke shape is totally dissimilar to the CQR, the shank angle is greater and the performance is abysmal.

They were supplied, by Simpson and Lawrence usually to those cheeseparing builders who were not prepared to pay the x3 price for the genuine CQR.

 

[ProDave]

Bruce anchors have not been manufactured in leisure sizes for many years.

I beg your parden

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313&_nkw=bruce+anchor&_sacat=0&_from=R40

 

[prv]

Bruce anchors have not been manufactured in leisure sizes for many years.

I beg your parden

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313&_nkw=bruce+anchor&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Note most of them say "Bruce type" or "Bruce style" - and most of those that don't probably should.

The Bruce pattern is widely copied; received wisdom is that this shape of anchor suffers more than most from being copied rather than genuine. No personal experience either way.

Pete

 

[Captainalf]

'New generation' anchors might well be considered modern. These would include Rocna, Manson, Spade, maybe Bugel. Bruce anchors have not been manufactured in leisure sizes for many years. I have owned a Delta since 1989 and they were not new then. So neither would qualify as modern.

Uhmmm, maybe Bugel - it's quite interesting that it seems the Bugel is only mentioned once in this thread. I absolutely love it. It has no moving parts and the quality of the steel is superb. My boat was hanging on it for about 5000 days and dragged twice in the last 14 years, once in sand and rock in up to 63 kn of wind.

 

[macd]

ProDave: Bruce has for many years been engaged in mooring tackle for very big things like oil rigs. In fact the Bruce anchor was originally designed for similar moorings.
This web site gives details of the recent activity: http://www.bruceanchor.co.uk/

Bruce copies can have very dodgy metallurgy such as would make Rocna look like paragons of virtue. Vyv could give you chapter and verse, not that it would address the OP's question.