What range do you have?

[Portofino]

R U sure? As I was told, the only reason why sight gauges were not OEM fitted in DPs is that RINA used to turn their nose up to them.
I would guess that this background should apply also to Itamas, as well as any other IT builders.
Alternatively, RINA engineers were maybe less strict with southern builders, which is a distinct possibility!

Sure .
Can’t see why not it cocked and push button activated and fitted in a guard cage to protect from flying debis .

That’s how mine are installed and every pic of Itama ERs on the Internet shows the same

Can you describe how yours are fitted .
I mean what might happen if there a puncture for example from flying debris ?

I doubt any horses heads have turned up in Genoa’s residents bed ( RINA HQ offices ) to force it through
Well not 100 % doubt come to think about it .

 

[jrudge]

I assumed the Yachdevices whotsit connected to the ECU on the engines? Are you saying it connects to the EDC lever box?

You will need to ask them as each system will be different, however on mine I just connected to the helm box using a cable that intercepted one of the cables going into the unit.

Before I did it he said it would probably work but wasn't to sure. I told him post event that it did. Your milage may vary.

The only issue with this ( and it is non issue for you) is that the upper helm must be selected for engine data to show, but given i only helm from there it causes me no issue.

Note the raymarine kit measures instant fuel flow - it cant do cumulative like Garmin - so you cant say I have 1000 litres and how much is left.

 

[jrudge]

What do you mean by "boxes"?

The volvo helm control / ECU boxes that a probably mounted on the engine room walls and under the lower helm.

 

[jrudge]

My (600l) fuel tank is in front of the engine room bulkhead in a dedicated space so there is very little room at the sides or above it for sight gauges. Besides that, the hatch is heavy and doesn't have any struts so is hard to lift. Removal of the tank would be a doddle but checking sight gauges (if you could even fit them) would be a pain.

This post has got me thinking though, I'm not sure how tall the tank is and what's below it. I guess it's just a void. Interestingly (for me), I believe that where a Genset was spec'd the fuel tank was split to make space for it. I'd be interested to know exactly how this was done (Stelican?).

Doubt you would have a sep generator tank. Why? T40 and S58 and S65 all use main tank.

 

[MapisM]

Can’t see why not it cocked and push button activated and fitted in a guard cage to protect from flying debis.

Actually I'm not sure of what RINA had (or used to have) against sight gauges, but I would guess that it has more to see with the fact that they can't be (obviously) as fireproof as the tanks.
The ones I fitted are also cocked and push button activated, but not enclosed in any cage.
Should I have batteries or whatever flying around the e/r, sight gauges would be the last of my concerns, tbh...

 

[MapisM]

Note the raymarine kit measures instant fuel flow

Afaik, not even that, in the pathfinder generation of instruments that Petem has on his boat.
I don't think they can handle ANY engine data, in fact.

 

[MapisM]

no running of wires round the boat

Not even for tank level senders? Genset control? E/r blowers control?
I'd mention also throttles cables as another example, since I had both KAD42 and 43 boats, which had mechanical throttles. Not sure about the 44, though.

 

[jrudge]

Not even for tank level senders? Genset control? E/r blowers control?
I'd mention also throttles cables as another example, since I had both KAD42 and 43 boats, which had mechanical throttles. Not sure about the 44, though.

the question was about the fuel display and Pete not wanting to run a cable from the engine room and based on my own experience there is no need to do so.

 

[jrudge]

Afaik, not even that, in the pathfinder generation of instruments that Petem has on his boat.
I don't think they can handle ANY engine data, in fact.

Pass - Pete said he wanted to do it so I assume the kit he has can display it. My gen raymarine will only show instant and somewhere in this thread he said he wanted to know how much fuel is left - i just wanted to point out it does not do that.

 

[petem]

Pass - Pete said he wanted to do it so I assume the kit he has can display it.

I actually have an RL70 (analogue radar and chartplotter backup) and an E7 (mounted on a bracket) connected via Seatalk NG.

My gen raymarine will only show instant and somewhere in this thread he said he wanted to know how much fuel is left - i just wanted to point out it does not do that.

What gen of Raymarine do you have J?

 

[petem]

The volvo helm control / ECU boxes that a probably mounted on the engine room walls and under the lower helm.

Hmm, not sure I've ever seen boxes as you describe. This is EDC 1 remember.

 

[petem]

Doubt you would have a sep generator tank. Why? T40 and S58 and S65 all use main tank.

It's not a separate generator tank, the main fuel tank was split (reduced in size) to provide a space to install the generator. What I don't know is where they placed the additional tank to make up the capacity.

 

[jrudge]

I actually have an RL70 (analogue radar and chartplotter backup) and an E7 (mounted on a bracket) connected via Seatalk NG.
E120 classic

The Garmin allowed you to add fuel and use fuel so you had a total on board displayed. Was reasonably accurate but gen usage not shown


What gen of Raymarine do you have J?

E120 classic

 

[jrudge]

I have Evc a ( first generation evc).

If you google the install instructions for your system you will find a diagram that shows what boxes you have.

I would imagine you do have boxes as otherwise adding a fly helm would be tricky and there would be wires everywhere as opposed to just talking to the control box

 

[petem]

Looking at the manual, Lighthouse II does seem to have exactly the functionality that I was looking for, i.e. the ability to set a fuel tank capacity and the ability to mark when full. It can display fuel remaining as well as some cool things like "Fuel this trip" and "Fuel this season". Also displays Distance per Volume e.g. Litres per 100km.

Pete

 

[jrudge]

Good news

I bought the interface at Dusseldorf. The chap is very helpful

 

[BruceK]

It's not a separate generator tank, the main fuel tank was split (reduced in size) to provide a space to install the generator. What I don't know is where they placed the additional tank to make up the capacity.

On my boat it looks like one tank has been split and reduced in size because it has an L shape rather than the rectangular shape of the other tank. It turns out that the L shape tank actually has about 30% greater capacity to compensate for a generator (my tanks dont balance out but feed each engine independently ). I mention this in relation to your comment and wonder if it's not the same principle?

 

[stelican]

Doubt you would have a sep generator tank. Why? T40 and S58 and S65 all use main tank.

I never saw one but was factory informed that split tanks to give space for generator did not ask tank capacity.
It may be possible to fit a dipstick into tank as you have good access. Tank tops quite often retro fitted with fuel pick ups for heaters

 

[petem]

Looking at the manual, Lighthouse II does seem to have exactly the functionality that I was looking for, i.e. the ability to set a fuel tank capacity and the ability to mark when full. It can display fuel remaining as well as some cool things like "Fuel this trip" and "Fuel this season". Also displays Distance per Volume e.g. Litres per 100km.

Pete

Reading the manual there is an obvious weakness in the Lighthouse II design. In order for the MFD to calculate remaining fuel it needs to be switched on so that it can receive the l/ph reading and therefore deduct the fuel used from what it believes is in the tank.

In reality, this isn't an issue but thought it worth mentioning.