Peppermint
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would you find tollerable when your sailing?
Like the airports or what?
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Like the airports or what?
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What level of security
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mirabriani
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If you are referring to sailing a la P and O
It seemed to dearheart and I that it was much quicker and easier than flying.
Car was taken away and parked for me. Luggage taken away and waiting in cabin.
Passport control informal and relaxed. Whole thing took 20 to 30 minutes.
I remember making the comment "It must be like this for my crew"
Briani
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It seemed to dearheart and I that it was much quicker and easier than flying.
Car was taken away and parked for me. Luggage taken away and waiting in cabin.
Passport control informal and relaxed. Whole thing took 20 to 30 minutes.
I remember making the comment "It must be like this for my crew"
Briani
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dralex
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Do you mean when at sea or when entering new countries. I must say that if i was in charge of a nations security, I'd be really worried and be taking action to prevent sailing yachts being driven at full speed into buildings and the consequent devastation. I would also outlaw all sharp metallic objects from boats, including the mast.
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Sunnyseeker
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Thats why the US wouldn't let us into St Croix, it was th emenacing looking anchor sticking out the front!
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Peppermint
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Re: On your own boat
Would you mind
being prevented from leaving or entering port.
subjected to more inspections.
more CCTV
mandatory radio reporting
large parts of ports being made into restricted areas
That kind of thing.
You see, your boat, no matter how small, is a potential weapon.
The USS COLE was hit by a RIB.
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Would you mind
being prevented from leaving or entering port.
subjected to more inspections.
more CCTV
mandatory radio reporting
large parts of ports being made into restricted areas
That kind of thing.
You see, your boat, no matter how small, is a potential weapon.
The USS COLE was hit by a RIB.
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Moose
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Re: On your own boat
A) Yes
B) Yes
C) No
D) No (find me a free channel/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif)
E) Depends where they are, I don't mind the restrictions in Portsmouth
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A) Yes
B) Yes
C) No
D) No (find me a free channel/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif)
E) Depends where they are, I don't mind the restrictions in Portsmouth
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dralex
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Re: On your own boat
I thought there already was an exclusion zone around all warships, at least in this country. That seems fair enough.Ther was an article in one of the rags last year about a muppet going for a close look at a ship in Portsmouth and then getting rather sternly warned off. I see no problem at all with exclusion zones around sensitive areas and MOD sites.
Boats with bowsprits, especially wooden ones should be treated as most dangerous and impounded at will./forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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I thought there already was an exclusion zone around all warships, at least in this country. That seems fair enough.Ther was an article in one of the rags last year about a muppet going for a close look at a ship in Portsmouth and then getting rather sternly warned off. I see no problem at all with exclusion zones around sensitive areas and MOD sites.
Boats with bowsprits, especially wooden ones should be treated as most dangerous and impounded at will./forums/images/icons/wink.gif
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Mirelle
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If you really want to know about this, I work for
The only shipping company to have stuffed a ship right into a four star hotel.
The New Orleans Hilton, with a 65,000 tonner, in 1995, to be precise. So it can be done (engine failure on a bend - no-one was hurt, which is why I can joke about it, but it looked pretty spectacular, and the US Coast Guard took some time to see the funny side!)
Now, less amusingly...
Besides the attack on the USS Cole, there was a similar suicide bomb boat attack on the French VLCC ("supertanker") Limburg, last year, off Oman. One crew member died, the fire was extinguished and the ship was repaired. Only one cargo tank was ruptured. One might conclude that merchant ships are tougher than modern warships. They are also a d... sight cheaper.
The terrorists had not done their homework - not only was the ship French, but the cargo was en route to Malaysia, an Islamic state.
The Tamil Tigers also used suicide boats against smaller tankers.
The British intelligence services gave us advance warning of their ineptitude, soon after "9/11" and a year or so before the Iraq fiasco, when a party of Royal Marines stormed a bulk carrier in the English Channel and detained the ship for two weeks whilst they ransacked her. The ship, which was owned by the UK subsidiary of an Indian public company, was en route to Tate and Lyle with a cargo of Mauritius sugar, and was completely "above board" in every way. Our brilliant spies decided that she was a huge bomb when they noticed that she was bound for the River Thames and they could not find out what she had been doing previously.
Highly suspicious stuff, in fact; she had been on charter to the United Nations, carrying food aid to Ethiopia. But you can't expect MI6 to work out that sort of thing.
Those of us who work in merchant shipping have, since the 1st of July, had to live with the International Ship and Port Security Code, which runs to over 100 pages, is internationally binding and has created a whole new industry, with "security levels", ship and port and company security officers and the Lord knows what.
None of which prevented HM Customs and Excise from employing, until last Monday, when the News of the Screws ran the story, convicted cocaine smugglers and dealers, on day release from Hollesley Bay open prison, as drivers, inside the security perimeter of Britain's busiest container port, Felixstowe.
So would I mind?
YES I B.....Y WELL WOULD!
I have to live with mindless bureaucracy and ineptitude by the "security services" at work; I can do without suffering them at play as well!!!
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The only shipping company to have stuffed a ship right into a four star hotel.
The New Orleans Hilton, with a 65,000 tonner, in 1995, to be precise. So it can be done (engine failure on a bend - no-one was hurt, which is why I can joke about it, but it looked pretty spectacular, and the US Coast Guard took some time to see the funny side!)
Now, less amusingly...
Besides the attack on the USS Cole, there was a similar suicide bomb boat attack on the French VLCC ("supertanker") Limburg, last year, off Oman. One crew member died, the fire was extinguished and the ship was repaired. Only one cargo tank was ruptured. One might conclude that merchant ships are tougher than modern warships. They are also a d... sight cheaper.
The terrorists had not done their homework - not only was the ship French, but the cargo was en route to Malaysia, an Islamic state.
The Tamil Tigers also used suicide boats against smaller tankers.
The British intelligence services gave us advance warning of their ineptitude, soon after "9/11" and a year or so before the Iraq fiasco, when a party of Royal Marines stormed a bulk carrier in the English Channel and detained the ship for two weeks whilst they ransacked her. The ship, which was owned by the UK subsidiary of an Indian public company, was en route to Tate and Lyle with a cargo of Mauritius sugar, and was completely "above board" in every way. Our brilliant spies decided that she was a huge bomb when they noticed that she was bound for the River Thames and they could not find out what she had been doing previously.
Highly suspicious stuff, in fact; she had been on charter to the United Nations, carrying food aid to Ethiopia. But you can't expect MI6 to work out that sort of thing.
Those of us who work in merchant shipping have, since the 1st of July, had to live with the International Ship and Port Security Code, which runs to over 100 pages, is internationally binding and has created a whole new industry, with "security levels", ship and port and company security officers and the Lord knows what.
None of which prevented HM Customs and Excise from employing, until last Monday, when the News of the Screws ran the story, convicted cocaine smugglers and dealers, on day release from Hollesley Bay open prison, as drivers, inside the security perimeter of Britain's busiest container port, Felixstowe.
So would I mind?
YES I B.....Y WELL WOULD!
I have to live with mindless bureaucracy and ineptitude by the "security services" at work; I can do without suffering them at play as well!!!
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BrendanS
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Re: If you really want to know about this, I work for
>>The only shipping company to have stuffed a ship right into a four star hotel.
The New Orleans Hilton, with a 65,000 tonner, in 1995, to be precise. So it can be done (engine failure on a bend - no-one was hurt, which is why I can joke about it, but it looked pretty spectacular, and the US Coast Guard took some time to see the funny side!)<<
River Walk Mall is what it hit, on Poydras Street Wharf , just along the Mississippi from the Hilton, and some wonderful pictures they have of it in the offices there!
I was party to a cruise there while working for CA and they used to take over the entire city for a customer do every year (20,000 odd customers). One year, they hooked it up with a staff worldwide kick off event (15,000 staff), with lots of training and stuff to justify the whole event, and claim taxes back,. It was Jazz week though, so not enough hotels to accomodate this lot.. We flew into Miami, then onto 4 chartered liners, which were chartered as floating hotels for the staff, and cruised to New Orleans with a stiff training schedule, but lots of fun times aboard
We were on Grandeur of the Seas I think. All Royal Caribbean Line. They dredged the Mississippi to New Orleans for them..... and then started charter voyages there later I believe. The four ships were so big for the wharfs, that one had to fit under the bridge by the mall, and many calculations were done on mean height of the river, and it was worked out that the bow of one of the 4 liners would fit under the bridge, and leave space for the other 3 liners. Those were the days! - none of us had any livers left after that 2 weeks!
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>>The only shipping company to have stuffed a ship right into a four star hotel.
The New Orleans Hilton, with a 65,000 tonner, in 1995, to be precise. So it can be done (engine failure on a bend - no-one was hurt, which is why I can joke about it, but it looked pretty spectacular, and the US Coast Guard took some time to see the funny side!)<<
River Walk Mall is what it hit, on Poydras Street Wharf , just along the Mississippi from the Hilton, and some wonderful pictures they have of it in the offices there!
I was party to a cruise there while working for CA and they used to take over the entire city for a customer do every year (20,000 odd customers). One year, they hooked it up with a staff worldwide kick off event (15,000 staff), with lots of training and stuff to justify the whole event, and claim taxes back,. It was Jazz week though, so not enough hotels to accomodate this lot.. We flew into Miami, then onto 4 chartered liners, which were chartered as floating hotels for the staff, and cruised to New Orleans with a stiff training schedule, but lots of fun times aboard
We were on Grandeur of the Seas I think. All Royal Caribbean Line. They dredged the Mississippi to New Orleans for them..... and then started charter voyages there later I believe. The four ships were so big for the wharfs, that one had to fit under the bridge by the mall, and many calculations were done on mean height of the river, and it was worked out that the bow of one of the 4 liners would fit under the bridge, and leave space for the other 3 liners. Those were the days! - none of us had any livers left after that 2 weeks!
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Andrew_Fanner
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Re: If you really want to know about this, I work for
>>The only shipping company to have stuffed a ship right into a four star hotel.
Grey Funnel Line stuffed their largest vessel into a Portsmouth pub in the early 1960s.
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>>The only shipping company to have stuffed a ship right into a four star hotel.
Grey Funnel Line stuffed their largest vessel into a Portsmouth pub in the early 1960s.
<hr width=100% size=1>Two beers please, my friend is paying.
VictorII
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Re: On your own boat
My mind is a weapon and my tongue is deadly when I make witty comments. So perhaps you should detain me.
Better yet, put all men above 16 in concentration camps. It worked for the nazis, after all.
What are you people actually afraid of?
Victor
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My mind is a weapon and my tongue is deadly when I make witty comments. So perhaps you should detain me.
Better yet, put all men above 16 in concentration camps. It worked for the nazis, after all.
What are you people actually afraid of?
Victor
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gjeffery
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Re: If you really want to know about this, I work for
Not quite - didn't the foredeck crew slip the anchor and stop the Vanguard short of the Still and West?
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Not quite - didn't the foredeck crew slip the anchor and stop the Vanguard short of the Still and West?
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Peppermint
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Re: I\'ll put you down
as a No! then.
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as a No! then.
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