Lakesailor
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Nothing wrong in that. You have to get the work/pleasure ratio into perspective.
What is the ideal distance from the boat...
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hannahman
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Nothing wrong in that. You have to get the work/pleasure ratio into perspective.
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Doug
Nothing wrong in that. You have to get the work/pleasure ratio into perspective.
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Doug
FinesseChris
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Hi
Our new gaff -- only for weekends, camping in it, at present, but full-time long-term -- is 2 mins 20secs from the boat (I've checked!). I can see the creek she's in, but a tree obstructs the actual boat (working on a mirror on a pole!).
The upsides are quite interesting, and some are unexpected. Apart from the obvious lack of 'we'll miss the tide' stress and the consequent thrash down the A3, we find we can use the boat at different times -- the mooring is very tidal -- and for shorter times.
I have also managed to shift about half a ton of gear off the boat and into the shed. This is stuff carried 'in case...' ranging from spares to extra clothing to food and drink. When you are 90 mins away, you leave stuff on board in case you get a chance to do some maintenance work (as if...), or you stow stuff you won't need now but might be helpful some time in the season.
I expect the boat to be half a knot faster next season due to weight reduction!
But the key gain is lack of stress and fuss over time and tide...
Have fun looking any way
Chris
PS we agree with the poster who said don't bother over-much with a sea view. We found the price difference eyewatering, and reasoned that we'd keep the sea view for when we are too old to go sailing!
Our new gaff -- only for weekends, camping in it, at present, but full-time long-term -- is 2 mins 20secs from the boat (I've checked!). I can see the creek she's in, but a tree obstructs the actual boat (working on a mirror on a pole!).
The upsides are quite interesting, and some are unexpected. Apart from the obvious lack of 'we'll miss the tide' stress and the consequent thrash down the A3, we find we can use the boat at different times -- the mooring is very tidal -- and for shorter times.
I have also managed to shift about half a ton of gear off the boat and into the shed. This is stuff carried 'in case...' ranging from spares to extra clothing to food and drink. When you are 90 mins away, you leave stuff on board in case you get a chance to do some maintenance work (as if...), or you stow stuff you won't need now but might be helpful some time in the season.
I expect the boat to be half a knot faster next season due to weight reduction!
But the key gain is lack of stress and fuss over time and tide...
Have fun looking any way
Chris
PS we agree with the poster who said don't bother over-much with a sea view. We found the price difference eyewatering, and reasoned that we'd keep the sea view for when we are too old to go sailing!
FullCircle
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A good mix of views. I think we will be going for a place just inland to save the few grand that we can pay off a bit more mortgage with.
Haad the Land Shark round tonight, and itw to be marketed post Christmas, so we should be in for the start of the season, lock it up and go sailing.
Haad the Land Shark round tonight, and itw to be marketed post Christmas, so we should be in for the start of the season, lock it up and go sailing.
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Having had both" worlds ... in fact a bit more than that !!!!
1 boat accessed after 2.5 hrs flying, 2 hrs in car at each end ... That boat is now booked onto truck to come over here to save fees and also the flying etc.
1 smaller boat at bottom of garden .... look out window - if weather good ... of you go ...
1 race boat in Tallinn that was 5 mins from the apartment I had ...
The latter 2 boats are non-tidal - Baltic Sea ... so that's a boon anyway.
The Race boat was sold so doesn't figure in it anymore. The funny thing is that the boat in the garden...(we have private canal offshoot from main river - as you know ...) doesn't get used as much as you'd expect !!
When the first boat above arrives here - she will also be at ntoom of garden ... accessed by small pontoon etc.
IMHO ?? I wouldn't change the view over water, I wouldn't change having the boat so close ..... Only thing I would think carefully about and try to see effect before committing ... is the prevailing weather / wind direction with reagrd to seaward / frontage of house etc. It can be idyllic in good weather / summer etc. - but a dog's ar*e when weather pounding on it / winter etc. We are lucky as we are inland on the river - so is not an issue ... and of course prices out here are "advantageous" .... and fast rising !!!!
1 boat accessed after 2.5 hrs flying, 2 hrs in car at each end ... That boat is now booked onto truck to come over here to save fees and also the flying etc.
1 smaller boat at bottom of garden .... look out window - if weather good ... of you go ...
1 race boat in Tallinn that was 5 mins from the apartment I had ...
The latter 2 boats are non-tidal - Baltic Sea ... so that's a boon anyway.
The Race boat was sold so doesn't figure in it anymore. The funny thing is that the boat in the garden...(we have private canal offshoot from main river - as you know ...) doesn't get used as much as you'd expect !!
When the first boat above arrives here - she will also be at ntoom of garden ... accessed by small pontoon etc.
IMHO ?? I wouldn't change the view over water, I wouldn't change having the boat so close ..... Only thing I would think carefully about and try to see effect before committing ... is the prevailing weather / wind direction with reagrd to seaward / frontage of house etc. It can be idyllic in good weather / summer etc. - but a dog's ar*e when weather pounding on it / winter etc. We are lucky as we are inland on the river - so is not an issue ... and of course prices out here are "advantageous" .... and fast rising !!!!
Lakesailor
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Course a drawback may be that the boat becomes a kennel for the SWMBO collection.
Kindred_Spirit
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What a great idea, but due to the fact that I am with the local Police force, I very much doubt I'd get away with it.
My hubby Al had a long posting session with Dave,(Trevera25) the other night in response to Duncan's 'post shift post', 'So you want to be a Police Officer'. With regard to getting involved with local trouble makers, its hard not too.
Anyway, Great area, the cold weather will keep the buggers at bay!!!!!
Thanks for the sentiment though. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Regards
Tina
My hubby Al had a long posting session with Dave,(Trevera25) the other night in response to Duncan's 'post shift post', 'So you want to be a Police Officer'. With regard to getting involved with local trouble makers, its hard not too.
Anyway, Great area, the cold weather will keep the buggers at bay!!!!!
Thanks for the sentiment though. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Regards
Tina
Slinky Spring
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I think there can be a temptation, if you live very close to the boat to think that you can go to it any time but then dont. Whereas if you have to travel you tend to plan your trips and look foreward to them all week and make the most of the weather etc.
Lakesailor
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I think there can be a temptation, if you live very close to the boat to think that you can go to it any time but then dont. Whereas if you have to travel you tend to plan your trips and look foreward to them all week and make the most of the weather etc.
[/ QUOTE ]There could be a bit of truth in that as I will look across to the lake, and if the weather doesn't look spot on I won't bother going out. Then 3 weeks later you think "hmm, I haven't been out for a while"
I've often been down to the landing and been talking with a fisherman and may say that I'd fancy going out but it looks like it may rain. Of course if it does, I'm pleased I didn't go. There is a guy on the moorings who lives an hour and a half away and comes up to sail every Saturday without fail. Mind you sometimes he gets soaked and other times he has to motor, so frequency doesn't actually add up to enjoyment.
I think there can be a temptation, if you live very close to the boat to think that you can go to it any time but then dont. Whereas if you have to travel you tend to plan your trips and look foreward to them all week and make the most of the weather etc.
[/ QUOTE ]There could be a bit of truth in that as I will look across to the lake, and if the weather doesn't look spot on I won't bother going out. Then 3 weeks later you think "hmm, I haven't been out for a while"
I've often been down to the landing and been talking with a fisherman and may say that I'd fancy going out but it looks like it may rain. Of course if it does, I'm pleased I didn't go. There is a guy on the moorings who lives an hour and a half away and comes up to sail every Saturday without fail. Mind you sometimes he gets soaked and other times he has to motor, so frequency doesn't actually add up to enjoyment.
Robin
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I think there can be a temptation, if you live very close to the boat to think that you can go to it any time but then dont. Whereas if you have to travel you tend to plan your trips and look foreward to them all week and make the most of the weather etc.
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We certainly found that was true when we lived 2hrs away. We were on a mooring then that meant a wet ride out in above F3 from the prevailing SW so had to allow for this with big heavy duty polybags for gear etc and on really bad Friday nights we slept on the clubhouse floor!
We moved 18 years or so back and now we live just 10 minutes away and have a marina berth. We rarely look out of the window and change our plans (other than wait for a shower to pass maybe) and still go on board pretty well every Friday even if the weather doesn't encourage us to go anywhere. Our berth means we are also ar$e into the wind and rain for anything from S to W but we have a large cockpit canopy (the 'conservatory') we can deploy complete with picture window across the stern. This allows us to sit out in the cockpit in all weathers and still enjoy the magnificent views across Poole Harbour, views that the houseowners nearby have paid multi-millions for - eat your heart out Harry Rednap! We also pop down on a nice summer's evening midweek to sit and enjoy the view, top up the water tanks and maybe wash the deck/cockpit ready for the weekend. If we come back late and maybe worn out after a shopping trip across Channel, we can leave it all as is, plug in the shorepower, leave the fridge running head for home and just come back next day to pack and clean ship, or even sleep on board and go home early next day. If they would only get our WiFi to be more reliable I wouldn't need to go home (the office is there) anyway!
I think there can be a temptation, if you live very close to the boat to think that you can go to it any time but then dont. Whereas if you have to travel you tend to plan your trips and look foreward to them all week and make the most of the weather etc.
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We certainly found that was true when we lived 2hrs away. We were on a mooring then that meant a wet ride out in above F3 from the prevailing SW so had to allow for this with big heavy duty polybags for gear etc and on really bad Friday nights we slept on the clubhouse floor!
We moved 18 years or so back and now we live just 10 minutes away and have a marina berth. We rarely look out of the window and change our plans (other than wait for a shower to pass maybe) and still go on board pretty well every Friday even if the weather doesn't encourage us to go anywhere. Our berth means we are also ar$e into the wind and rain for anything from S to W but we have a large cockpit canopy (the 'conservatory') we can deploy complete with picture window across the stern. This allows us to sit out in the cockpit in all weathers and still enjoy the magnificent views across Poole Harbour, views that the houseowners nearby have paid multi-millions for - eat your heart out Harry Rednap! We also pop down on a nice summer's evening midweek to sit and enjoy the view, top up the water tanks and maybe wash the deck/cockpit ready for the weekend. If we come back late and maybe worn out after a shopping trip across Channel, we can leave it all as is, plug in the shorepower, leave the fridge running head for home and just come back next day to pack and clean ship, or even sleep on board and go home early next day. If they would only get our WiFi to be more reliable I wouldn't need to go home (the office is there) anyway!
duncan
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walking distance wins hands down for so so many reasons...........
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too true I think ...
"I think there can be a temptation, if you live very close to the boat to think that you can go to it any time but then dont. Whereas if you have to travel you tend to plan your trips and look foreward to them all week and make the most of the weather etc"
I have the boat literally out the back door ... in own canal mooring etc. You couldn't be closer unless you lived on it !!
Many times you look out the window and see a grey speck in the sky .... or it's not quite sun and blue sky .... so you don't go .... 'cause you can always go tomorrow !!
Sadly - with winter fast descending on us out here ... boat is now "dragged" up the bank and waiting for spring to come around .... pontoons as well.
"I think there can be a temptation, if you live very close to the boat to think that you can go to it any time but then dont. Whereas if you have to travel you tend to plan your trips and look foreward to them all week and make the most of the weather etc"
I have the boat literally out the back door ... in own canal mooring etc. You couldn't be closer unless you lived on it !!
Many times you look out the window and see a grey speck in the sky .... or it's not quite sun and blue sky .... so you don't go .... 'cause you can always go tomorrow !!
Sadly - with winter fast descending on us out here ... boat is now "dragged" up the bank and waiting for spring to come around .... pontoons as well.
Sans Bateau
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Re: too true I think ...
Some live close to their boats, lakesailor, SBC, Duncan etc. You guys are real lucky, dont be too smug! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
I'm kind of lucky, the boat is 10mins from work, 40mins from home. On a Friday SWMBO has a drive of over an hour to join me. All not too bad.
I do feel sorry for the peeps who fall in love with boat ownership and live in the middle of the country. For them, wherever they go to start their weekend requires a long drive. Bad enough with Friday eve traffic, but what a drag on a Sunday eve it must be having to get home.
IMHO I feel we have it about right. If you are lucky enough to have the boat at the bottom of the garden, its just part of your every day life. If you have to drive for several hours to get to the boat, that must be such a pain, but what a reward!
No, about an hour, close enough to get to with ease but far enough away for it to be an escape.
Some live close to their boats, lakesailor, SBC, Duncan etc. You guys are real lucky, dont be too smug! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
I'm kind of lucky, the boat is 10mins from work, 40mins from home. On a Friday SWMBO has a drive of over an hour to join me. All not too bad.
I do feel sorry for the peeps who fall in love with boat ownership and live in the middle of the country. For them, wherever they go to start their weekend requires a long drive. Bad enough with Friday eve traffic, but what a drag on a Sunday eve it must be having to get home.
IMHO I feel we have it about right. If you are lucky enough to have the boat at the bottom of the garden, its just part of your every day life. If you have to drive for several hours to get to the boat, that must be such a pain, but what a reward!
No, about an hour, close enough to get to with ease but far enough away for it to be an escape.
duncan
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Re: too true I think ...
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Some live close to their boats, lakesailor, SBC, Duncan etc. You guys are real lucky, dont be too smug!
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if only!
I live 141 miles from my mobile home which is then 300yds from my (primarily) day boat.
others that have mobile homes in the same park but their boats a few miles away in 'much nicer marinas' neither get the use out f thier boats I do nor get the option to sit on the boat watching the sun go down, drink in hand, before wandering up to the van as night falls................
(this latter is of course how I remember it but it more sorting out those little issues in a leisurely manner with a can of beer somewhere in a holder!)
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Some live close to their boats, lakesailor, SBC, Duncan etc. You guys are real lucky, dont be too smug!
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if only!
I live 141 miles from my mobile home which is then 300yds from my (primarily) day boat.
others that have mobile homes in the same park but their boats a few miles away in 'much nicer marinas' neither get the use out f thier boats I do nor get the option to sit on the boat watching the sun go down, drink in hand, before wandering up to the van as night falls................
(this latter is of course how I remember it but it more sorting out those little issues in a leisurely manner with a can of beer somewhere in a holder!)
Sans Bateau
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Re: too true I think ...
OOps! Sorry Duncan. It was your comment:
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walking distance wins hands down for so so many reasons...........
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OOps! Sorry Duncan. It was your comment:
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walking distance wins hands down for so so many reasons...........
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duncan
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Re: too true I think ...
np - extending my argument those who live a distance away but live onboard when they get there have the best of both worlds!
np - extending my argument those who live a distance away but live onboard when they get there have the best of both worlds!
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UK vs Latvia
My UK boat which is being trucked out end of this month .... is 10 mins drive from my Summer Mobile .... so I enjoy reasonably close amenities ....
Best thing really is that halfway between boat and mobile - is the supermarket where you stop to stock up !! So it's a pretty good situation.
But sadly with my infrequent visits to UK - cost of maintaining a marina berth etc. is just daft ... so over to here ... (I'm having a mooring "hook" made up so I can lay a trot for her alongside the other boat .... out here ....)
Then the problem's going to be .... which boat do I use ????
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My UK boat which is being trucked out end of this month .... is 10 mins drive from my Summer Mobile .... so I enjoy reasonably close amenities ....
Best thing really is that halfway between boat and mobile - is the supermarket where you stop to stock up !! So it's a pretty good situation.
But sadly with my infrequent visits to UK - cost of maintaining a marina berth etc. is just daft ... so over to here ... (I'm having a mooring "hook" made up so I can lay a trot for her alongside the other boat .... out here ....)
Then the problem's going to be .... which boat do I use ????
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duncan
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Re: UK vs Latvia
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Then the problem's going to be .... which boat do I use ????
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easy one that - biggest fridge in summer, best heater in winter!
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Then the problem's going to be .... which boat do I use ????
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easy one that - biggest fridge in summer, best heater in winter!
Lakesailor
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Re: too true I think ...
Living close-by also has the advantage that we don't need to have a boat we can stay on board so our costs are very low. If I needed to drive to the boat for an hour I'd be thinking about putting a bigger one on the sea, except of course that the coast up here isn't the most beautiful or practical.
On balance I like things as they are.
Living close-by also has the advantage that we don't need to have a boat we can stay on board so our costs are very low. If I needed to drive to the boat for an hour I'd be thinking about putting a bigger one on the sea, except of course that the coast up here isn't the most beautiful or practical.
On balance I like things as they are.
oceanfroggie
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Depends on what type of boating you like (ie overnight cruising, day boating, weekend cruising, water sports, etc). There is no one answer.
1-2hrs by car
For us we cruise a lot either over weekends or for a week or two at a time. We treat our boat like a holiday home. 1.5 to 2hr away is ideal for us because the cruising area is not on our doorstep and retains it's holiday escape feeling (ie away from home and work). I think if we had the boat moored nearby we would lapse into day boating, or worse still marina boating! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif We can drive down on a Friday evening, slip the lines and cruise to about 10 destinations within 1-2hrs cruising range. We never stay overnight at home marina base if we can help it. But's that's just us,. Most folk have different preferences and their own boating patterns. Enjoy anyway you prefer! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif For us 2hrs is worth the drive to escape to such a beautiful cruising area with plenty of overnight options.
1-2hrs by car
For us we cruise a lot either over weekends or for a week or two at a time. We treat our boat like a holiday home. 1.5 to 2hr away is ideal for us because the cruising area is not on our doorstep and retains it's holiday escape feeling (ie away from home and work). I think if we had the boat moored nearby we would lapse into day boating, or worse still marina boating! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif We can drive down on a Friday evening, slip the lines and cruise to about 10 destinations within 1-2hrs cruising range. We never stay overnight at home marina base if we can help it. But's that's just us,. Most folk have different preferences and their own boating patterns. Enjoy anyway you prefer! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif For us 2hrs is worth the drive to escape to such a beautiful cruising area with plenty of overnight options.
