Wansworth
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There is a possibility to purchase a boat with probably a wonk inboard diesel,I can get a new 7 hp outboard for 1500 euros .The transome is verticle,the boat a Jennaue Sangria
What is the best way to mount an outboard.
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ridgy
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Do what everyone else does:
Outboard bracket
7hp outboard? An unusual beast. 6 or 8?
Anyway those brackets only go up to 6hp weight wise (four stroke at least) but you wouldn't want to be trying to mount anything heavier leaning over the transom anyway.
Why would you buy a boat with a duff inboard? Obviously you won't buy it anyway but hypothetically speaking.
Outboard bracket
7hp outboard? An unusual beast. 6 or 8?
Anyway those brackets only go up to 6hp weight wise (four stroke at least) but you wouldn't want to be trying to mount anything heavier leaning over the transom anyway.
Why would you buy a boat with a duff inboard? Obviously you won't buy it anyway but hypothetically speaking.
Wansworth
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It was more the reinforcement of the transome I was inquiring about.The wonky engine well it’s an old ya mar and may well be a liability……..or course hypothetical speaking
Refueler
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I've fitted three o/bds to boats that had 'wonky' inboards ...
The lifting brackets can be had in two versions ... a) up to about 5 / 6hp ... b) up to about 15hp.
I had a Mercury 7 sailpower O/bd on a 6hp bracket - that's a heavy lower geared O/bd on my Snapdragon 23 and it was fine ...
Generally transoms are strong enough - but to be sure - a hardwood or metal backing plate inside is advised to spread the load. I made mine so that area covered was about 2" more all around. Decent stainless bolts and locknuts.
Another has mentioned the lifting on / off ... that was the worst bit ... and I always had a line made fast from O/bd to boat whenever doing it ...
BUT - don't giove up on the inboard just yet ... you never know ... maybe a bit of TLC is all it needs ??
The lifting brackets can be had in two versions ... a) up to about 5 / 6hp ... b) up to about 15hp.
I had a Mercury 7 sailpower O/bd on a 6hp bracket - that's a heavy lower geared O/bd on my Snapdragon 23 and it was fine ...
Generally transoms are strong enough - but to be sure - a hardwood or metal backing plate inside is advised to spread the load. I made mine so that area covered was about 2" more all around. Decent stainless bolts and locknuts.
Another has mentioned the lifting on / off ... that was the worst bit ... and I always had a line made fast from O/bd to boat whenever doing it ...
BUT - don't giove up on the inboard just yet ... you never know ... maybe a bit of TLC is all it needs ??
Wansworth
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Thanks,no have not bought the boat yet but was pr emting. a possibility to compare the price of two boats….anyway thanks for your fullanswer
Boater Sam
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In answer to your question, run up behind it without making a sound and jump on its bones.
Aja
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Depends if it has been used recently. Be careful if the exhaust is hot.
Tranona
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You will find an outboard very inconvenient on that boat. You will not be able to reach the controls from the cockpit and the propeller will be long way aft of the rudder. The boat was designed for an inboard.
Daydream believer
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Lots of cheap boats about with working engines. Why bother?
Wansworth
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Not in Galicia
LittleSister
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An outboard is not the answer in this case.
Offer a price that will allow you to replace the engine, sooner or later, with a modern inboard (e.g. Nanni or Beta 14hp*, actually both same base Kubota engine), or walk away. (Note replacing engine will probably involve new prop shaft, propellor, hoses, inlet seacock, exhaust outlet, custom engine brackets or modified beds, so significantly more euros than headline price of the motor alone.)
(*A French friend has a Sabre 27, cruised pretty extensively, that had a Yanmar YSE8. It had actually proved pretty reliable over many years, I believe, but it vibrated horribly - would shake your teeth out - apparently because one or more of the engine mounts or mounting brackets (I can't remember exactly the details) were broken. This really put a damper on enjoyment of the boat, particular making long trips under engine an ordeal. I could never understand why he didn't just replace the engine mounts (his English is little better than my v poor French), but he put up with it for a number of years. Eventually (I suspect in retrospect he might have been waiting for an anticipated inheritance) he replaced the engine with a Nanni 14. He is just so hugely pleased with the smoothness, power, and lack of worry the Nanni gives him. His wife also enjoys being on the boat so much more, too.)
Offer a price that will allow you to replace the engine, sooner or later, with a modern inboard (e.g. Nanni or Beta 14hp*, actually both same base Kubota engine), or walk away. (Note replacing engine will probably involve new prop shaft, propellor, hoses, inlet seacock, exhaust outlet, custom engine brackets or modified beds, so significantly more euros than headline price of the motor alone.)
(*A French friend has a Sabre 27, cruised pretty extensively, that had a Yanmar YSE8. It had actually proved pretty reliable over many years, I believe, but it vibrated horribly - would shake your teeth out - apparently because one or more of the engine mounts or mounting brackets (I can't remember exactly the details) were broken. This really put a damper on enjoyment of the boat, particular making long trips under engine an ordeal. I could never understand why he didn't just replace the engine mounts (his English is little better than my v poor French), but he put up with it for a number of years. Eventually (I suspect in retrospect he might have been waiting for an anticipated inheritance) he replaced the engine with a Nanni 14. He is just so hugely pleased with the smoothness, power, and lack of worry the Nanni gives him. His wife also enjoys being on the boat so much more, too.)
LittleSister
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Is looking in, say, Atlantic France and/or Portugal really out of the question?
Wansworth
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No,I have spread the net in theses areas…….We also have a hot contienda in Vigo,a Gibsea 24,immaculate with outboard In a well on the port side,checking paperwork as registered in Luxemburgo……we don’t hang about here
Wansworth
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Going to view the boat Mondayin Sada…..yes I think your right
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Jim@sea
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I had a French Guy Couch fishing boat with an inboard 72hp diesel with shaft drive, , It had an outboard bracket on the stern with a 9.9 Evinrude as an auxiliary, (lovely engine)
Whilst in a port with no tidal flow I had my GPS which showed the speed I was going and with the 9.9 Evinrude I was only able to make 2.5 knots at full revs, So if you were out at sea it would be useless.
Although when in Port St Louis in Brittany I was heading to where I had put my trailer and with an open cockpit the wind from behind and with the inboard engine on tickover I was travelling towards the trailer too fast, so I switched the Outboard on in reverse and gently went onto the trailer.
On another occasion whereas I normally would go out of Whitehaven Marina on the outboard and then get the inboard b=going when out at sea, because I was selling the boat went through the marina on inboard engine and when out at sea opend the throttle and it would not rev,
I found out later that a fishing net had wrapped itself around the propeller of the inboard diesel, had I gone out on the outboard this would not have happened.
Tranona
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Can you explain how this is of any relevance to the OP who is considering using the outboard on a 25' sailing boat weighing less than 2 tonnes which is normally powered by an inboard 8hp diesel?
