What is the 1 check you always do

[prv]

Increase the loop height in the pipe

I'd rather not have to pump out the sink.

Pete

 

[prv]

Interesting that the only mention of seacocks is for closing the head sink before going out.
I can only assume that nobody bother closing the engines ones after arrival...

If your boat's internal plumbing is in such a poor state of repair that there's a risk of it falling apart at the berth, you should fix that rather than band-aid the problem by closing seacocks. Because that implies it's even more likely to fall apart at sea where there's motion and pressure changes, and that's far more dangerous.

Pete

 

[prv]

I read somewhere that you shouldn’t even have it plugged in if running the genny. Just wondered if it was true

That's going to depend on your boat's wiring.

Pete

 

[Momac]

I can only assume that nobody bother closing the engines ones after arrival...
Tut, tut.

Not all boats have engine sea cocks .

 

[MapisM]

If your boat's internal plumbing is in such a poor state of repair that there's a risk of it falling apart at the berth, you should fix that rather than band-aid the problem by closing seacocks. Because that implies it's even more likely to fall apart at sea where there's motion and pressure changes, and that's far more dangerous.
Pete

I like to think that she isn't in such sad state, but there are two reasons for closing seacocks anyway:
1) it's required by the world famous BodgeFlow system, which you surely know since by now everybody and their dog (with the only exception of Portofino) installed on their boat, at least here in the asylum;
2) as others said, routinely operating the seacock is necessary to prevent valve locks. So, while you are at that, you can as well leave them closed after using the boat and reopen them before.

 

[MapisM]

Not all boats have engine sea cocks.

Point taken.
With outdrive and IPS powered boats, there's much more to be concerned about than closing seacocks!

 

[Bouba]

I like to think that she isn't in such sad state, but there are two reasons for closing seacocks anyway:
1) it's required by the world famous BodgeFlow system, which you surely know since by now everybody and their dog (with the only exception of Portofino) installed on their boat, at least here in the asylum;
2) as others said, routinely operating the seacock is necessary to prevent valve locks. So, while you are at that, you can as well leave them closed after using the boat and reopen them before.

P, I’m not saying that I am with Porto, but what is the BodgeFlow system?

 

[James_Calvert]

Remove car keys, mobile, wallet, loose stuff etc from pockets they could fall out of.

Need a hand bag really...

 

[Portofino]

I like to think that she isn't in such sad state, but there are two reasons for closing seacocks anyway:
1) it's required by the world famous BodgeFlow system, which you surely know since by now everybody and their dog (with the only exception of Portofino) installed on their boat, at least here in the asylum;
2) as others said, routinely operating the seacock is necessary to prevent valve locks. So, while you are at that, you can as well leave them closed after using the boat and reopen them before.

@1- it’s a bit of a oversimplification , to the anodic issues the differences between engines like CAT / Larger Volvos with Pencil anodes because of dissimilar metal components , and the MAN ( + others) transom anode protection which relies on a certain electrolyte concentration for its efficacy .

For new to this there are threads where the chemistry , which is what corrosion is has been illustrated , more to the point the anodic side of protection .

Back on topic I leave all mine open in the season and closed in the off season + monthly exercise in the summer and less frequently in the winter.
Obviously in my ER checks they are eyeballed .
This thread was about the “ 1 thing “ but seems to marched into something else .Hey ho !

 

[Portofino]

P, I’m not saying that I am with Porto, but what is the BodgeFlow system?

If I may ?
It revolves around this
Caterpillar C18 and C32 Engine Defects Investigation

CAT where are still are if you listen to some guys( brokers + Del skippers ) plagued with inter cooler failure .
This lead to water ingestion in the cylinders and a destroyed engine .Water does not compress , metal bends instead .

Subbing manufacturing to the likes of god knows where loosing quality control , dissimilar metals , poor design = the pencil anodes would dry out = in effective ,
So JFM on his 2nd C32 build specced a fresh water flows post shutdown system using fresh water in a attempt to extend the intercoolers life and obviously stave off a hydrolock, or any other excess wear issues caused by a small amount of water being allowed in to be burnt.

For balance CAT bitten by large payouts now life al intercoolers for 6 years .A throw away part .
So if your engines go bang from now on you are unlikely to be successful if they have not been changed out .
£10 -£20:K a pop each btw .
Goolge “ CAT intercooler failure “ For more background .....it’s not pretty .

 

[Momac]

Remove car keys, mobile, wallet, loose stuff etc from pockets they could fall out of.

That's a good point. I do have a small basket for car keys etc.
Once lost coins from coat pocket overboard when the wind lifted my open coat. The car keys might have gone the same way had they been in there .

 

[AndieMac]

If I may ?
It revolves around this
Caterpillar C18 and C32 Engine Defects Investigation

CAT where are still are if you listen to some guys( brokers + Del skippers ) plagued with inter cooler failure .
This lead to water ingestion in the cylinders and a destroyed engine .Water does not compress , metal bends instead .

Subbing manufacturing to the likes of god knows where loosing quality control , dissimilar metals , poor design = the pencil anodes would dry out = in effective ,
So JFM on his 2nd C32 build specced a fresh water flows post shutdown system using fresh water in a attempt to extend the intercoolers life and obviously stave off a hydrolock, or any other excess wear issues caused by a small amount of water being allowed in to be burnt.

For balance CAT bitten by large payouts now life al intercoolers for 6 years .A throw away part .
So if your engines go bang from now on you are unlikely to be successful if they have not been changed out .
£10 -£20:K a pop each btw .
Goolge “ CAT intercooler failure “ For more background .....it’s not pretty .

its not just Cat with problematic intercoolers, some Cummins models as well, particularly the 8.3 C series.

 

[AndieMac]

I like to think that she isn't in such sad state, but there are two reasons for closing seacocks anyway:
1) it's required by the world famous BodgeFlow system, which you surely know since by now everybody and their dog (with the only exception of Portofino) installed on their boat, at least here in the asylum;
2) as others said, routinely operating the seacock is necessary to prevent valve locks. So, while you are at that, you can as well leave them closed after using the boat and reopen them before.

Hi P, I’m with you on the close the seacock principle, in fact I close every below waterline valve when leaving the boat, takes me exactly 15 seconds. As far as the boats plumbing system is concerned, you don’t really know what’s developing with hoses tucked away under floors and bulkheads after years of fatigue, I’m happy to invest the 15 seconds and a final engine room eyeball before locking the door and leaving.

I’ve been thinking about the BodgeFlow system, and would like to get your opinion about installing the hose connection in the sea strainer lid and related pressures etc. Perhaps a PM? Cheers

 

[MapisM]

I’ve been thinking about the BodgeFlow system, and would like to get your opinion about installing the hose connection in the sea strainer lid and related pressures etc.

Hi C, that's exactly what I did for the DP main engines.
I also connected a few other bits (airco chiller, genset and shaft seals) directly to the onboard fresh water circuit, so for each of them the flush is just a matter of opening a valve.
But it would have been tricky to plumb a large enough hose to the mains raw water inlet, so I just fitted on each lid a 3/4" valve with a quick coupling, which I feed with a hose from the dock.
The hassle of connecting/disconnecting the hose for flushing is no big deal anyway, and obviously I only do that when I know that she's not going to be moved for some time.

It was all extensively explained in this thread of last year, from post #41 onward.
BTW, I only just noticed that a link which I posted in that thread, pointing to the original thread where the concept was first discussed, for some reason doesn't work anymore.
But if you are interested to check out also how the idea started (and was approved by Latestarter!), you can find it in this 2010 thread.
That said, more than happy to discuss, also via email, any further doubts you may have, of course!

 

[Coastgal]

Gents, there is a fundamental think you've missed. Appreciate that they are unlikely to be reading this forum but it would be a grave mistake to cast off without making sure that your better half is aboard

Yes, absolutely!
On one occasion the better half WAS onboard, at the helm, whilst the other half was NOT. He decided to untie the lines...from the pontoon ?

 

[AndieMac]

Hi C, that's exactly what I did for the DP main engines.
I also connected a few other bits (airco chiller, genset and shaft seals) directly to the onboard fresh water circuit, so for each of them the flush is just a matter of opening a valve.
But it would have been tricky to plumb a large enough hose to the mains raw water inlet, so I just fitted on each lid a 3/4" valve with a quick coupling, which I feed with a hose from the dock.
The hassle of connecting/disconnecting the hose for flushing is no big deal anyway, and obviously I only do that when I know that she's not going to be moved for some time.

It was all extensively explained in this thread of last year, from post #41 onward.
BTW, I only just noticed that a link which I posted in that thread, pointing to the original thread where the concept was first discussed, for some reason doesn't work anymore.
But if you are interested to check out also how the idea started (and was approved by Latestarter!), you can find it in this 2010 thread.
That said, more than happy to discuss, also via email, any further doubts you may have, of course!

Thanks for this P, this will be my next bigger job, I like the idea of hooking in the genset etc. I’ll make contact soon, all the best to you both....

 

[Assassin]

Why?

Because she does the cooking and makes the coffee, both essentials.

 

[Momac]

....... it would be a grave mistake to cast off without making sure that your better half is aboard

I have ruled out the possibility of that error some years ago by putting her in charge of the ropes .

 

[lisilou]

Check the OB’s still attached!

 

[Uricanejack]

That is something you have learnt about your boat , that you would not go to sea without doing. it could be fastening a door, putting a bag in front of the fridge door to keep it closed. Whats your must not forget thing?

My mums advice.

Always wear clean underwear JIK