What is happening to Standard Horizon Chartplotters

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Hi all,

I was starting to think about renewing some kit and, being very happy with my Standard Horizon radios and chartplotters, thought I would start looking at building a new platform based around their offerings. The SH UK website now has only summary details of the CPN1010i and its 7" relative. Neither of these is carried by my 3 regional listed dealers or Cactus {some still show some of the discontinued models}.

I've googled "standard horizon" and CPN1010i and the only 'marine' advert is by Gaelforce.

I am beginning to get the feeling that SH are pulling out of the Chartplotter business in the UK. Please tell me I am wrong!

Does anyone have any news?

Cheers
Bob
 
If you look on the Standard Horizon UK website they all appear under the "retired" products page

http://www.standardhorizon.co.uk/index.php?cPath=178_179

I would suspect that its not competition from Navionics on ipads etc as whilst these are capable they are just not rugged enough. I would suspect that its more competition from MFD displays and NMEA 2000 devices. New buyers will look at MFD displays in the centre of a boats console and then not consider the standalone, dedicated, CP180 style models that went before.

Whilst a dedicated Standard Horizon user (their customer service has been outstanding over the years) if I had a blank console space on my boat it would now have an MFD in it.

Martin
 
Martin,

The CPN1010i is on the 'Products' page i.e. not retired. I was initially attracted to it as it fulfils my definition of MFD - Quote "The first chart plotter to offer built-in Wi-Fi®, Internet Explorer 6.0 and Windows Media Player capabilities.; Stream live music or video and listen effortlessly from the chart plotter’s front panel built-in speakers". It offers a slave display - very useful on my boat with two steering positions. {Unfortunately SH haven't done radar in the UK, which would also be good for true MFD}.

I also care about the cartography. I am very happy with C-map, despite the recent cost increases.

(I also have a Raymarine MFD, which I just don't get on with). I would like to renovate based on C-map.

Anyway, there is no rush - 5 months to SIBS.
Cheers
Bob
 
Spoke to Standard Horizon a couple of weeks ago and they are indeed pulling out from the chartplotter business to concentrate on the radio side of things.
 
jobbie said:
Spoke to Standard Horizon a couple of weeks ago and they are indeed pulling out from the chartplotter business to concentrate on the radio side of things.
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Thanks Jobbie,

Looks like a major rethink is needed. I won't update my C-map card until I see the route ahead.

Its a great shame because the products, their updates and the SH staff (especially Ailsa) were great. I suppose it is understandable given Yaesu's core skills.

Anyone worked through a good C-map cartography, radar, AIS (including message 21 display) and non-proprietary databus outfit?

Cheers
Bob
 
Bit of a tardy response to the Standard Horizon thread, which I've only just picked up on. It's a shame if SH have given up on plotters - apart from having a frigate fry my active antenna with its ECM, my CP300 has behaved faultlessly for nine years. But because Boeing-Jeppesen decide to scrap their proprietary C-card and use only micro SD format, with no updates available for existing ones, I decided I would have to get a new plotter.
We already have a Garmin 10-inch one on board but never use it - its power consumption is far too high for a sailing boat and it's shipped only when we need to use the radar and are running the donk. Having been a Garmin user since we installed a simple 65 GPS back in the stone age, I had trusted the brand, so decided on an EchoMap 72 as the CP300 replacement.
WRONG, WRONG, INDESCRIBABLY WRONG!!!!!!!
This is a heap of garbage, unsuited for use on a sailing boat, and with a crippling lack of ability to interface with our nav system. Only one NMEA channel, and you have to choose between high-speed AIS or creeping Mk 1. It wouldn't communicate with our brand new Simrad TP32, chat with the TackTicks, and worst of all it has an ultra sensitive touch screen. No place for Garmin garbage like this, so it's up for sale on eBay.
Our trusty CP300 has been reinstalled, and all the electronicals are happily chatting away to each other.
I would VERY STRONGLY advise against any of the current Garmage MFDs as it seems NONE have multiple NMEA channels. They've lost the plot!
 
jezza said:
I would VERY STRONGLY advise against any of the current Garmage MFDs as it seems NONE have multiple NMEA channels. They've lost the plot!
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Welcome to 2018. NMEA 2000 is pretty standard fare these days, few MFD's feature loads of 0183 ports, or green screens and it's been ages since if fitted anything with Bakelite buttons :)
 
I can’t think of any modern plotters which have more than one NMEA port, and as Paul says most have none. It seems it maybe has no N2k ports but you should be able to interface to your AP by an 0183 to N2k bridge, and talk to the tactics via same 0183, so i’m not sure you should be going retro so quickly. You might have a problem if you need AIS as well. If you posted a kit list here i’m sure several people could have helped you achieve what you wanted, or got somewhere near it.
 
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I would VERY STRONGLY advise against any of the current Garmage MFDs as it seems NONE have multiple NMEA channels. They've lost the plot!
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As Mr Rainbow notes, NMEA2000 is infiltrating its way into the leisure market. If you need to multiplex numerous NMEA0183 channels, there are a number of devices which can do this for you for about £100 or so.
 
jezza said:
I would VERY STRONGLY advise against any of the current Garmage MFDs as it seems NONE have multiple NMEA channels. They've lost the plot!
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I'm afraid that's not correct. I have a Garmin GPSMAP820 (a current model) and it has 2 NMEA0183 input ports and 2 NMEA0183 output ports.

The Garmin GPSMAP7400/7600 models (also current) similarly have 2 NMEA0183 input ports and 2 NMEA0183 output ports.

Your mistake was buying an Echomap version, which are basically designed as fishfinders and aren't really intended for extensive networking. Incidentally, the Echomap 72 isn't a current model, it's discontinued.
 
Minor thread resurrection, just to add a little information should anyone come across this. I've just fitted two more Garmin plotters, that are interfaced with other equipment.

Echomap 95SV. It has N2K and a single 0183 port. No surprise that it's networked with several N2K devices and all works flawlessly. it is also, despite comments above, interfaced with a Simrad WP32. Previous threads on here have claimed it would not work, it does work, it will steer to compass, steer to waypoint or follow a route from the plotter.

GPSmap 922. This boat has no N2K network, the only other equipment fitted that does support N2K is the new Vesper AIS that i fitted. Not worth putting a N2K network in for 2 devices, so i used the single 0183 port to acheive everything the owner wants. The single port can be set to different speeds on the IN and OUT. OUT is sending GPS data to the VHF and data to the Raymarine under deck autopilot, the autopilot works exactly as it should as above regarding waypoints and routes. The new Vesper AIS has a single 0183 port (has to be set to 38,400 for AIS, so can't be used for the VHF) and a N2K port, the 0183 port is sending AIS data to the new Garmin plotter at the helm and the rather old Garmin plotter at the chart table. So all we're using here is a minimal amount of 0183 ports, but we have two plotters, an AIS and the AP all working together.
 
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