Rum_Pirate
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According to Antigua Classic Sailing Week
Do you agree with that defination?
If not how do you define a classic?
Do you agree with that defination?
If not how do you define a classic?
What is a Classic?
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highandry
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Difficult one that...do you mean multi million pound, fully crewed, International financier millionaire owned for Antigua Classics, or a 50 year old Maurice Griffiths restored over the years at weekends and kept on a swinging mooring up the East Coast? I know which one I would classify as "Classic"... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
joliette
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You mean .... 'All yachts, traditional boats, and ships should be of the “one off” type, with a hand-crafted hull. All entries should have a full keel with a keel hung rudder; however short keels with a separate rudder may be accepted if the yacht is of a traditional design. All entries should be fine examples of tradition and craftsmanship in hull and rig and be in good condition. Yachts built recently, using modern materials and built in classic style and grace to exceptional standards may be accepted into the "Spirit of Tradition Class"....?
Doesn't that cover both a 50 year old Maurice Griffiths and a Kate?
Perhaps one for a lengthy discussion over a bottle of the Sponsors product!
Doesn't that cover both a 50 year old Maurice Griffiths and a Kate?
Perhaps one for a lengthy discussion over a bottle of the Sponsors product!
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Chrusty1
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This one comes up every now and again doesn't it? I know what I mean by "classic boat"........but many may disagree.
For me, a "classic" has to be built of wood, have something like a traditional under water hull shape ie Folkboat style.... or long straight keel ie Martin Heard's Toshers..... Gaff Rig for preference.
Price / value, doesn't come into it, it's how she comes over to me when I see her. So I reckon it's all in the eye of the beholder really.
For me, a "classic" has to be built of wood, have something like a traditional under water hull shape ie Folkboat style.... or long straight keel ie Martin Heard's Toshers..... Gaff Rig for preference.
Price / value, doesn't come into it, it's how she comes over to me when I see her. So I reckon it's all in the eye of the beholder really.
absit_omen
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Yes, but there surely must be a case for the Maurice Griffiths as well?
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highandry
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/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif The MG will do for me! I have to admit to a certain feeling of being " conned" by some 'classics' that's all. There was a big yacht in Las Palmas which from a distance looked the real thing, but on closer inspection it was all carbon fibre and moulded GRP. Massive sheet winches which probably cost as much as my boat and I watched them use one to haul her stern closer to the quay for varnishing only to discover they were all electric, bloke pressed a button!!
Still, good luck to the owners, if they can afford it..why not? It's just for me personally it's a bit like faking Old Masters paintings, nice but not the real thing. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Still, good luck to the owners, if they can afford it..why not? It's just for me personally it's a bit like faking Old Masters paintings, nice but not the real thing. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
PCUK
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It's a bit 'propulsionist' to restrict classics to wood and sail. There is a steel Tough Sealion in the berth next to me. Built in the sixties with a round bilge semi-displacement hull. Definitely a classic in my mind!
LittleShip
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It's a bit 'propulsionist' to restrict classics to wood and sail
I have to agree with this statement, as the owner of a wood Mobo I feel she is or at least nearing a classic status now. Another example would be the Fairey Huntsman that must be a classic even if only in design and then there is ........ well the list would just go on and on.
Tom
I have to agree with this statement, as the owner of a wood Mobo I feel she is or at least nearing a classic status now. Another example would be the Fairey Huntsman that must be a classic even if only in design and then there is ........ well the list would just go on and on.
Tom
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highandry
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Propulsionist?? You're winding me up surely..is that a real word?? Perhaps it is today. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I don't give a big rat's arse what a vessel is made of, Fairy Huntsman beautiful, definitely a classic. As long as it's a real one that's all I ask before someone claims classic status.
There's a grey 1930's "Mercedes" open sports car around here that's made of fibre glass and has a Ford V six engine in it...if you get my drift..that's what I'm slightly cynical about when it comes to classics. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I don't give a big rat's arse what a vessel is made of, Fairy Huntsman beautiful, definitely a classic. As long as it's a real one that's all I ask before someone claims classic status.
There's a grey 1930's "Mercedes" open sports car around here that's made of fibre glass and has a Ford V six engine in it...if you get my drift..that's what I'm slightly cynical about when it comes to classics. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
halcyon
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For me, a "classic" has to be built of wood, have something like a traditional under water hull shape ie Folkboat style.... or long straight keel ie Martin Heard's Toshers..... Gaff Rig for preference.
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But Martin builds fibre glass boats !!!
Brian
For me, a "classic" has to be built of wood, have something like a traditional under water hull shape ie Folkboat style.... or long straight keel ie Martin Heard's Toshers..... Gaff Rig for preference.
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But Martin builds fibre glass boats !!!
Brian
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Chrusty1
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Gerron...........well I never! I was on about keel SHAPE!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Ya Prune! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Getting back to the question, like I said before, it's all in the eye of the beholder, just because I think a classic is one thing, doesn't mean that my definition of a classic is somebody elses does it?.......Folks are starting to talk in terms of plastic classics these days, in my opinion, there is no such thing, maybe plastic in a classic style, but not a genuine classic.
Who was it on here that said, "there aint nowt naffer than a plastic gaffer"........I tend to agree with him, but that's just me.
If somebody has a tupperware tub, and they think it's a classic................Hey, whatever rings their bell innit! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Ya Prune! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Getting back to the question, like I said before, it's all in the eye of the beholder, just because I think a classic is one thing, doesn't mean that my definition of a classic is somebody elses does it?.......Folks are starting to talk in terms of plastic classics these days, in my opinion, there is no such thing, maybe plastic in a classic style, but not a genuine classic.
Who was it on here that said, "there aint nowt naffer than a plastic gaffer"........I tend to agree with him, but that's just me.
If somebody has a tupperware tub, and they think it's a classic................Hey, whatever rings their bell innit! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
PeteCooper
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My boat is a plastic classic.
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Chrusty1
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Well, that's ok then innit Pete /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
KellysEye
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Our boat has done Classics week twice. Their basic definition is built of wood or steel, with traditional rig: cutter, ketch, yawl, schooner. If you don't fulfill those basics the boat won't be considered.
Even if you do fulfill the requirements they may not accept the entry if the boat is not pretty e.g. hard chine steel ketch.
Even if you do fulfill the requirements they may not accept the entry if the boat is not pretty e.g. hard chine steel ketch.
PCUK
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Propulsionist! Of course it's real word. It must be, cos' everyone understood it! /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
Try it out for a few days free of charge and if you like it I'll send an invoice for permanent use!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Try it out for a few days free of charge and if you like it I'll send an invoice for permanent use!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
