What Boat?

[EME]

Hypothetical, but interested what experts think...

Experience - Nil ( Crash course)
Fair Weather Only
Husband + Wife = Both lazy - getting older
Usage - Every other weekend 1 or 2 days
Sailing Area - cote d'Azur ( but back in work every Monday morning)
Motor required for calm days
All mod cons please...automatic sail widgets and bodgits
Prfer 2nd hand

Capital available - £140k max
Running Cost - No issue

...I wanna boat please..

 

[EME]

Oh .... no suggestions?

...I wanna boat please..

 

[tome]

£140k would buy you a very late Hallberg Rassy 36 with in mast furling, electric winches and a good size engine which is easy to handle and with a nice after cabin and good size centre cockpit. Probably also get a bow thruster for your money as HR owners seem to like these.

It'll also look after you well if the fair weather turns foul.

Plenty of other choices, but it's a start!

 

[EME]

Thanks, it's what I was looking for. Somehere to start as I know nothing ...

...I wanna boat please..

 

[tome]

Have a look at their web site

http://www.hallberg-rassy.com/

where you can see pictures and read about the HR36. You can also take a look around down below, which is rather neat.

 

[zefender]

Cote d'azur eh? Wouldn't suggest a boat built mainly for northern European waters. You need a nice big cockit and lots of extras to make the weekends easy going. So I'd go for, wait for it....any of the popular, modern brands, like Bavaria, Jeanneau or Beneteau - 40-44ft. and spec it up like crazy so you get exactly what you want.

 

[Spacewaist]

D you work for Transworld?

HR UK Brokers?

Nice boats - I have a 42. But Id have thought the Jen/Bav/Ben would have done this trick.

 

[tome]

Re: D you work for Transworld?

No, but my real name is Magnus Rassy...

I was working back from Learners budget and trying to put myself in his position, plus the fact that he'll sell an HR36 with little if any loss if things go pear shaped.

Had he said £70k I would have recommended a Benjebav.

 

[zefender]

Re: 70K?

'ang on.

40ft Bav, about 80K. Any smaller than that and other boats on the Cote D'azur would think its a tender. By the time you've added on a decent set of extras its £110K. If super widgets are needed, it would jump to £125K+ pretty quickly. So, brand new 42ft would probably fall into his price category. Second hand 'classic'/wet boat (depending on your point of view) would probably not be that well spec'd - but granted probably well finished below.

 

[tome]

Re: 70K?

Not arguing with this zefender if looking at 40ft new, though he did say s/h

 

[jamesjermain]

Catamarans

A catamaran might be a serious answer for you.

The big NO might be moorings depending on where and what you might be able to find. In crowded marinas cats tend to attract premium rates but the Continentals are far more sympathetic to multihulls that British marina operators - I have just come back fromLa Rochelle were there are almost literally hundreds of them.

Advantages of a cat for you are:
No heeling (wifes in particular appreciate this - with apologies for sexist bias)
Huge open cockpits and foredecks
Big, well ventillated, 360 degree vision deck saloons
Two big engines to get you home fast
Accommodation in separate hulls for those 'awkward moments'!
No rolling in anchorages plagued by swell - which is not uncommon in the western Med. in particular
Depending on the boat, performance which is at least as good as an equivalent length monohull.

In your price range you could look for a secondhand:
Catana 38 (possibly even a 431) which have better than average performance.
Lagoon 410 - very spacious, reasonable performance
Lagoon 380 - also spacious, reasonable performance but less 'woody' in its fit-out
Dean 400 - avoid early models but late ones well built and go well
Athena 38 - spacious but plasticy and sticky in light airs
Bahia 43 - better fitted out, reasonable performance
Prout Escale 38 - well presented, comprehensively fitted out but slooow

There are others as well


JJ

 

[bedouin]

For what you want - you should probably look at something like a 32-36 footer from one of the Beneteau, Jeanneau, Bavaria stable. Brand new they are well within the price range and have plenty of interior volume to add any mod cons that don't come as standard. They are designed for the Med climate and so will be more suitable than the "better" northern European designs.

PS I note a lot of people are recommending 40' - really unecessary for 2 people weekending - don't buy bigger than you need just because you can.

PPS This sounds suspiciously like our old friend Room101

 

[FlyingSpud]

You, an LLB,: WHAT Boat? it's WHICH BOAT. The state of education nowdays ,

 

[EME]

Nooooooooooooo, although father was ( a LLB). The whole thing is a pun. A bit like your 'avoiding 3 daughters'. From that I assume you already have 2 . See !

My English is teribul, but so why do we have 'Which Car' magazine. I thnk not. Similar use of language, n'est-ce pas.





...I wanna boat please..

 

[EME]

No ...not Steve101, as Kim will confirm if you are really interested, although like others I choose to stay anonymous after personal abuse received in my early days of posting here.

None of those individuals are still around but no chance = no risk.

You will note from one of the replies on this post that some people have zero humour tolerance..

Thanks for the replies though, lots of lovely research from them.

...I wanna boat please..

 

[tcm]

Re: Learner, get back to MBC immediately!

What on earth are you doing here?? One minute you're posting questions about 50mph speedboats on MBC - now it's a sailboat! You can jolly well get back home immediately AND go to the post office first to pay back in all that cash that's burning a hole in your pocket.

Also, sailboats on the cote d'azur, tsk. Silly boy - there's no flipping wind in summer cept for a F2 moderating. That's why all the boats in the marina are powerboats.

 

[EME]

Re: Learner, get back to MBC immediately!

ORrr, cum on Dad.

Just having some fun with the boys over in 'The Other Place' allowed to do some research aren't I while I'm waiting dfor a response on last week' s offer? Most interesting people here ...and only one insult so far !

How do you know about the money I took off the mantlepiece , anyway spent it all this morning on eay to school. Sorry gotto go now, behind bike shed with Dorothy, someone told 'er me dad had a big one...

P.S. Reason all boats in marinas are powerboats is cos you advised them all to buy one !!!

...I wanna boat please..

 

[Twister_Ken]

Experience - Nil (Crash course)

Could I suggest an anti-crash course might be more useful?

 

[EME]

Re: Experience - Nil (Crash course)

Ken

Did one of those. Failed.

Now trying alternative option so that Hope of passing.

Given ability to tack , actually picking out stinkies vs raggies or vice versa very unlikely.

...I wanna boat please..

 

[AnneW]

I would have thought a 42 foot boat is pretty big for someone who has done no sailing. Are you sure you are going to like it once you've spent all that money? If running costs are no problem why not charter for a while to see how you go. I would have thought on something less than 42 foot say 35 maximum. They're big machines if there is only two of you and no experience! particularly in a crowded Marina!!