Ceejay
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Has anyone got experience of fitting these to a yacht with a sugar scoop?
Straightforward, or not?
Thanks CJ
Straightforward, or not?
Thanks CJ
Wetline Snap Davits
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Mistroma
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I'll be interested to see what people think of these items. I decided that they were far too expensive and looked slightly fiddly to connect, so I tried an alternative approach. I wonder if you've already looked at other options.
My cheap option works so well for me that I've completely abandoned the idea of clips. However, if others think that they are really good and explain the advantages I'll see if I can modify my setup to make similar improvements.
I just added a hinged padeye (ex. eBay) to floor on port side of sugar scoop. This lets me run a line from the dinghy's transom through the padeye when coming alongside and feed the painter through a D ring on port side through boarding ladder suport. No precise alignment required and easy to pass outboard, supplies etc. up and down. Lifting is quite simple, just start by clipping a strop to the centre of the dinghy on opposite side from the boat. Flip the stern line under the rear of the sponson and take up enough tension to lift a few inches. The painter is transferred directly to pushpit and also pulled tight. Then I pull the strop which flips the dinghy out of the water and against the stern. Lifting or lowering only takes a couple of minutes and there are no metal parts sticking out from hull or dinghy.
My cheap option works so well for me that I've completely abandoned the idea of clips. However, if others think that they are really good and explain the advantages I'll see if I can modify my setup to make similar improvements.
I just added a hinged padeye (ex. eBay) to floor on port side of sugar scoop. This lets me run a line from the dinghy's transom through the padeye when coming alongside and feed the painter through a D ring on port side through boarding ladder suport. No precise alignment required and easy to pass outboard, supplies etc. up and down. Lifting is quite simple, just start by clipping a strop to the centre of the dinghy on opposite side from the boat. Flip the stern line under the rear of the sponson and take up enough tension to lift a few inches. The painter is transferred directly to pushpit and also pulled tight. Then I pull the strop which flips the dinghy out of the water and against the stern. Lifting or lowering only takes a couple of minutes and there are no metal parts sticking out from hull or dinghy.
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Ceejay
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Mistroma
I think I just about understand your set up and will look at my stern to see if I could do something similar. It has to be straightforward enough that charterers can deal with it with the minimum of tuition.
Also I think I have confused matters by saying that I have a sugar scoop. What I actually have is a sloping transom with a removable helmsman's seat, which gives access by way of the stern for boarding purposes. There is also a removable board to stop the loss of small dogs or children through the gap below the helmsman's seat!
I think I just about understand your set up and will look at my stern to see if I could do something similar. It has to be straightforward enough that charterers can deal with it with the minimum of tuition.
Also I think I have confused matters by saying that I have a sugar scoop. What I actually have is a sloping transom with a removable helmsman's seat, which gives access by way of the stern for boarding purposes. There is also a removable board to stop the loss of small dogs or children through the gap below the helmsman's seat!
Mistroma
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Sounds as if you might need to go for something simpler. I was flipping my dinghy up & down almost every day so easy to find best way to do it. I'm guessing that charter crew would need a step by step diagram and still get it horribly wrong.
One worry I had about the clips was that they appeared to fix the dinghy at a specific height. That means you might have problems when empty or heavily loaded. Another possible problem might be boarding in a bit of a swell. I simply allow a couple of inches of slack in the lines. As there's about 1 foot of rope between fixtures the dinghy still sits parallel with stern and doesn't get hauled around much by motion of the yacht. I wouldn't board from stern in a big swell so am just talking about times when you get some wake (i.e. something passed 10 mins. ago and finally reaches you).
One worry I had about the clips was that they appeared to fix the dinghy at a specific height. That means you might have problems when empty or heavily loaded. Another possible problem might be boarding in a bit of a swell. I simply allow a couple of inches of slack in the lines. As there's about 1 foot of rope between fixtures the dinghy still sits parallel with stern and doesn't get hauled around much by motion of the yacht. I wouldn't board from stern in a big swell so am just talking about times when you get some wake (i.e. something passed 10 mins. ago and finally reaches you).
baffled9
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Snap Davits
Ceejay
We have been using similar snap davits on our Beneteau for the last four seasons. We think they are excellent ..... happy to explain why, if you are not already sold on the idea.
However, your question appeared to be about ease of installation. Mine were already fitted when we bought the boat so I can't speak from experience. The biggest issue must be accessibility to the inside of the transom or lip of the sugar scoop to enable the bolting through of the on-hull fixing - and this will vary from boat to boat.
The question of difficulties arising out of different loads creating different docking heights is not an issue with a properly installed set up. Shifting crew weight in the dinghy will provide all the adjustment necessary. Once attached, you have a very stable platform (by comparison with most alternatives).
Let me know if I can usefully tell you more.
Ceejay
We have been using similar snap davits on our Beneteau for the last four seasons. We think they are excellent ..... happy to explain why, if you are not already sold on the idea.
However, your question appeared to be about ease of installation. Mine were already fitted when we bought the boat so I can't speak from experience. The biggest issue must be accessibility to the inside of the transom or lip of the sugar scoop to enable the bolting through of the on-hull fixing - and this will vary from boat to boat.
The question of difficulties arising out of different loads creating different docking heights is not an issue with a properly installed set up. Shifting crew weight in the dinghy will provide all the adjustment necessary. Once attached, you have a very stable platform (by comparison with most alternatives).
Let me know if I can usefully tell you more.
A second -hand dinghy which I bought has these attached. In the absence of the component which is attached to the boat, I was thinking of using a pair of snap-shackles attached to padeyes bolted to the sugarscoop. Does anyone have any advice/opinions? (the boat is a Dufour Classic 30, which has a shallow sugarscoop)
Ceejay
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Thanks everyone. I guess my reason for asking specifically about Wetlone is the relative cheapness compared with others.
Ie do they last?
Ie do they last?
David2452
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The dingy pads are the same as Weavers, the "boat end" bits are plasticy and not a patch on the all stainless heavily built Weavers, the moulded covers could easily get broken. As for use, they basically hinge the tender to the back of the boat very closely and securely, gives a great deal of confidence when taking off or putting on the outboard and unloading people and your stuff and I wouldn't be without my Weavers, mind you they are on a nice flat swim platform.
