West Country to St Malo: Trip Report

TheBishop

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Took the family ( Wife and two small boys 3 and 2 ) together with my mate as crew from Plymouth to CI's and St Malo last week.

Crossed on Saturday from Plymouth to St Peter port. Took on 1100 litres at Plymouth Yacht Haven at a cost from memory of 87p?? Left Plmouth at 1230 got to St PP around 2000. Boat is a Trader 50 cruising at 2000revs: SOG around 11kts. Crossing uneventful, F3/4 from NW. Plenty of commercial shipping but radar and MARPA takes care of uncertainty.

STPP a complete zoo. Rafted up outside alongside a big Squaddie but inner marina full to overflowing. Next morning a daughter of a friend of mine flew in from the UK to act as nanny, we picked up 1100 litres at the St PP Fuel berth at a cost of 54p. The StPP HarbourMaster told me that he had never had as many big motorboats in and wondered why? Mmmm...87p plays 54p....go figure.

Ran down to St Malo leaving Guernsey around 1100 and got there in time for the first lock at around 1430. Another zoo as a big freighter went in followed by a gnats swarm of small boats jamming up the lock. we tucked in behind the freighter with a yacht hanging off us. Utter mayhem for 10 minutes but managed well by the lock staff. The water levels change slowly but you have to man your lines as its a long way up.

Sat in my favourite spot alongside the quay outside the walls. Water and electricity and the guinea seats for promenaders. St Malo is quite my favourite place on this coast. Great restaurants, bars, shopping. An old walled corsair town virtually flattened in the war: interesting comparison with Plymouth which pre War was a fine timbered town I believe. Similarly flattened by bombing; difference was the French rebuilt St Malo exactly as it was, Plymouth was rebuilt by East European lunatics!!

Wind resolutely in the NW, grey skies, so no chance to put the kids on the beach, so we enjoy the town and its restaurants courtesy of our on board nanny.

After 3 days we go back to Guernsey and watch with interest as the Brittany ferry cuts the west Minkies reef very close...well east of the NW Minkies cardinal and about a mile east of us . Will clock that next time I am down that way. northbound he leaves the SW Cardinal to starboard and the NW well to port. Lots of water but very close to the reef.

Its blowing top of a F4 into 5 as we get back to Guernsey and its mad again outside STPP. We get alongside a Princess who is outside an Aquastar and we get a Grand Banks outside us. I am 25 tonnes on my own so its shore lines out fellas.

Again no chance of going in so the HM sends us to the QE marina next door and we berth alongside a Trader 53. If he is in here thank you. we came and went quietly without fuss and i greatly admire your deck ladders...where did you get them from?

Left after a day for Alderney but first filled up at St sampson from the road tanker. 800 litres at 47p. It is by appointment only but well worth booking if you are down that way. Ferocious cross tide coming into St sampson so watch out...we were flying sideways very quickly so be on your toes as reefs abound there.

Went up to Alderney via the Swinge with careful avoidance of Pierre Vraic in the main track to Alderney from Guernsey...why isnt it bouyed?? HM put us in the SE corner which is to be avoided as a nasty swell runs in there and we rolled like a pig. Mate has a house on the island so we stayed overnight there....I dont think a night on the boat would have been pleasant.

Next morning...the boom of the foghorn!! Great! we had a couple of miles viz by 0900 so we go. Running at 1800 revs but a nasty rolling cross sea makes the kids and wife throw up...crank up to 2100 revs and we flatten out a bit but still a roll in the NW 4. Shipping lanes busier than I have seen for a long while....probably 30 ships eastbound and we have a policy of ducking round the stern if in doubt. Marpa a great help but I'm always glad to get those big mothers astern of me.

Kids and wife not having a great time so we opt to run into Salcombe for the night. Get to Salcombe about 1430 and go up the top of the Bag onto a bouy. HM takes our lines , very helpful. We have a house there so we decamp for land.

Next morning my mate and I take the boat back to Plymouth, leaving the family in Salcombe. My car is at the marina so I can go back to get them later.


Good trip but weather could have been kinder ....and hotter! Its a tough call between slowing right down to get fuel efficiency and speeding up to flatten out the ride and get the family there quicker. We opt for the latter. I am considering flying the family to Guernsey next year and crossing with just my mate and I.

Saw virtually no mobos on the crossing but did bump into the Mobo rally in St PP. I wonder if the fuel price has kept us all on the UK side of the Channel. I enquired about berthing permanently in Guernsey but was told of a 5 year waiting list for off islanders....is that true???

Will sign off now but happy to expand on areas of interest if asked.

The Bishop

Jules Verne

Trader 50
 
Thank you Bishop - very interesting indeed.

I sometimes wonder why people cut corners like the ferry you mention - very little time saved and what if there is an equipment failure? The extra sea room can sometimes be the make or break...


The lack of pre-allocating berths is fully understood but the harbours like SPP put me off going as I always like to know where I will moor before I set off.
 
thanks for the 'memories'

we were going the other way at about the same time - Poole - Weymouth - Torquay - Dartmouth - Plymouth - Poole and have to agree that the weather wasn't that conducive to enjoyable boating, although we are also a 'slightly' smaller craft! We bailed out with 3 out of the next 4 days scheduling rain in the Plymouth/Falmouth area.

Again, as you, we saw few (if any?) MBs on our travels at all (outwith Torbay and the imediate vicinity of Plymouth, Dartmouth and Salcombe) - but we crossed with a fair number of yachts heading West on our way back East.

QAB was 97p to non-berthholders; so you have shown it really is 'half price' if you travel and shop around!

Any buoy on P le V would be a much bigger hazard to most craft than the rock itself presents - those that need to avoid it can easily give it a wide berth. Given the huge number of potential navigation hazards in the area you have to draw the line somewhere :)

You have also added to the weight of heading to St Malo - I seem to end up everywhere else but there - but I will avoid August.

Thanks again
 
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Went up to Alderney via the Swinge with careful avoidance of Pierre Vraic in the main track to Alderney from Guernsey..

I believe there is some doubt whether it is correctly charted or even whether it exists at all. Apparently very few people claim to have seen it and I dont know of any boats hitting it. I've left Braye at LW in calm weather myself in an attempt to spot it but couldn't find any sign of it. Anyone got any more info?

Great report but

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Sorry:):):)
 
Pierre vraic

Have passed that way many times in boith sail and motor and never seen even a swirl of water but it is mentioned in every pilot book and is ominously prominent on every chart.

The Bishop
 
Great report Bishop,

Can you tell me if the reason you could not get in to St Peter Port was because of your length? (ooh er!)

Was is just chocka or were smaller boats getting in?

Peter
(smaller boat owner)
 
St Peter port

Length mainly ( 50ft )- and beam I guess ( 15ft ) - but boats were going in although mainly smaller stuff. Weather wasnt helping because not many boats were coming out. Problem was it was mayhem outside with lots of rafting up. HM was telling me that they were close to full outside and in. You cant pre book so you have to take your chance.

Previous posts have hinted that the current harbour staff are not getting optimum berthing plans sorted but I thought they were doing a pretty good job. Its just that there was a lot of stuff around, and with the diesel differential ( and I gather that Jersey applies VAT to marine diesel but Guernsey doesnt ) that meant lots of mobos were there inc Jersey boats.
 
I believe there is some doubt whether it is correctly charted or even whether it exists at all. Apparently very few people claim to have seen it and I dont know of any boats hitting it. I've left Braye at LW in calm weather myself in an attempt to spot it but couldn't find any sign of it. Anyone got any more info?

Great report but

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Sorry:):):)

It's there, well in the general area charted at least.

I will sonar map it next time I am over and post the images here (dealing with the latter part of your post!) including co-ordinates.

It's one of those that looks a bigger threat, shallower, on charts than is actually the case, unlike some of those little black crosses that represent significant threats!
 
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