Warning - Yanmar 3YM30

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Approximately the first 5,500 Yanmar 3YM30 diesels supplied to boatbuilders and fitted in Jeanneaus and US-type Hunters (amongst others) have an overheating problem, usually showing up only after about 100/150 hours running, and when the sea water temperature rises in summer. On my engine the overheating warning light/beeper was going off, and a check by an engineer with a temperature guage showed the engine was genuinely overheating, not just having an over-sensitive warning light sensor.

Yanmar and their distributors in the UK, EP Barrus, know of this problem, and are fixing it under warranty. However they are NOT warning users in advance of this known problem. They also appear not to be even telling their service dealers about this - the first my local dealer knew was when I told him - I found the first references to this on the web relating to US-marketed Jeanneaus.

Fortunately I found the problem on my engine (in a 2005 model Sun Odyssey 35 with 90 hours) before departing on a longish cruise, and it was fixed just before departure. I met up two days ago with another owner of a similar boat who had to delay his cruise west mid-holiday while the Weymouth Yanmar dealer got the parts and did the fix on his engine (at 125 hours).

These early (2004/2005) engines have a 38-tube heat exchanger, and some very early engines were reportedly also fitted with a smaller capacity raw water pump than is now used. The fix is to replace the original 38-tube heat exchanger core with a new 63-tube one, and change the water pump if necessary.

If you have a Yanmar 3YM30 with an engine serial number under 6,000, I suggest you phone EP Barrus and ask if your engine is affected. I am not sure of the exact number of the last of the faulty batch, but Barrus know. Don't rely on your Yanmar dealer having just serviced the engine to know about this!

Not impressive customer service from Yanmar ..... A pity as I generally like their engines.
 
Thanks John and welcome to the forum........... don't have a Yanmar myself but this post might well save fellow forumites with them a few quid diagnosing an obviously known problem.

Cheers,
Paul.
 
Re: Warning - Yanmar 3YM30 (3GM30)

Thanks for the info. I have a 3GM30, around 12 years old. I have had two overheating incidents in the past 5 years, both on the only two occasions when we cruised at around 3500 rpm for an extended period. I wonder if my problem is similar.

This winter the full service of the heat exchanger, etc. is due, so if I find that everything is clean and the thermostats are okay etc., then I'll use this info as an additional tip.

I am not happy with the thought that I might be deprived of using full power should I really need it for a period.

Note, I have a sensitive flow switch and alarm on the raw-water intake, so I am pretty confident that it is not a problem in this area.

Alan.
 
Hello fom Vancouver Canada

Interesting that I came to this forum to research this problem I have! I purchased a new 2005 Jeaneau Sunfast 35 in May of this year, and on her maiden voyage, she overheated. Jeanneu dealer was great and had a Yanmar service rep meet me at our Yacht club and he shot the engine. Indeed he confirmed that Yanmar knows about this, but has not been publicizing. In Vancouver, or the Pacific North Weest we do not have a tremendous number of Jeanneau's (I have the only SF35 on the Cnadian Pacific Coast so far), more Catalina, J's and C&C, oh yes and hunter.

In any event, parts were back ordered until yesterday, and she is suppoesed to be good to go late this afternoon. We are going to take her out for the weekend and run her @ 3000-3400 rpm to make sure it is a fix.

Thanks to google for helping me find your forum, and thank you for the details of the fix.

Kind regards

Jeff Motley
Staff Captain
Eagle Harbour Yacht Club
West Vancouver, British Columbia
JeSy
 
All the above is true, and the fact that Jeanneau used an incompatible coolant that caused sludge build up on the heat exchanger causing the issue to be exacerbated.
They changed my coolant, but I got overheating again going flat out across the Channel last week.
I have requested a new exchanger, and will now ask about the water pump.
As everyone says, nice engines, real shame I dont feel able to trust them anymore.
 
this thread doesn't apply to us, having a Thornycroft, but I would be interested to know what you call 'flat out across the channel' Jim. For us, 2200 rpm is ample for 7 knots on calm sea, even though it will rev well over 3000.

were you in a hurry to get there?
 
Lots of traffic in TSS near Sandettie, tight EBLs on radar, judicious application of power to give good clearance.
3650RPM about 7 knots (5kts-ish SOG), bit weedy round the waterline.
Not impressive that the alarm should sound at all, even though it was about 30 C air temp.
Why would anyone build an engine/installation which overheats in just a couple of minutes?

When I have been involved in car powertrain design we ran them for hundreds of hours in excess of any known conditions to ensure we meet the expectations of the customer. It does not absolutely guarantee the result, but comes pretty close.

This is, purely, a botched cover up. Far easier would have been to work out the fix, contact those customers affected, quietly and confidently put it right. Everyone says how good you are. Now they have a problem, probably because they haven't worked out the reach of the internet amongst the using community.

By the way, I had a nice holiday at 3000RPM or less.
 
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