st599
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So if one has to clock in and start the 18 month clock at a listed port, presumably that means you have to clock out too? What happens if the office is shut?
Visiting France after No Deal BREXIT
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capnsensible
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Welcome to the world of the cruising yachtsman.
If it all goes back to the bad old days, then you gotta wait. Or pay overtime.
Coz when you get to the next country you may well be denied entry because you dont have clearance from the last place. Common term Zarpe. Its in a great deal of the world.
st599
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To take the premise further, de that mean that you may have to clear out of the UK to have the correct paperwork for when you arrive in France?
capnsensible
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Didnt used to have to in those old days..... but other Nationalities have to do exactly that. Some countries are difficult, some arent.
I cant give a proper answer but Im very aware of what goes on around the World!
Daydream believer
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In the 70,s You used to have to have the correct papers to exit the Uk . Although I do not recall showing them to the Belgian authorities on arrival there, when sailing Burnham/Ostend
( but I do recall being arrested for having no paper work whatsoever on arrival in Ostend)
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Kurrawong_Kid
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If I remember correctly you had to fill in a duplicate form before you left the UK and deposit or post one copy to HMC( as it was then). The other copy was shown to French, Belgian, Irish or whatever customs to prove you had left the UK correctly. Upon return you hoisted a “pratique” flag and waited until a customs officer arrived to clear you having inspected the clearance copy obtained from the country you had visited. As an economy measure this was later changed to waiting for 2 hours, and if no officer appeared you posted your copy of the original form back to HMC. Later this was changed to a phone call and post the form back. Later still you put the form in a box!
Whatever happens on Friday there will be changes to the free and easy cross channel, north and Irish Sea crossings we have had for 40 years or so (Unless article 50 is revoked). I’ve 2 possible summer cruises planned. Stick to the English South Coast and Channel Islands if a “hard” Brexit or go to France, Belgium or Netherlands if a “soft” one. But, even then, I should send a form to HMRC(now) before departing to the C.I.!
Welcome back to the real world. The party is over.
JumbleDuck
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The current plan - though in context the word "plan" has to be treated with caution - is that the Common Travel Area will not be affected by Brexit, so there will still be free travel between the UK, Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. Of course that's part of the problem, because if the UK has free travel to ad from Ireland and Ireland has free travel to and from the rest of the EU ...
But hey, blue passports!
Tomaret
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At least one CA organised summer cruise is on hold until things become clearer. Maybe the boost in business for Marinas on the South Coast is part of the Brexit dividend - I’ll resist further comment which may be more appropriate on the sub-forum.
newtothis
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Not for at least 10 years for me, fortunately. I find red sits better next to my black one than blue ever will.
JumbleDuck
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Botswana, Zambia, Burundi, Gabon, Angola, Chad, Congo, Malawi or New Zealand?
newtothis
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Don't discount the US as well.
JumbleDuck
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Diplomatic?
newtothis
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Oh yeah, international man of mystery, me. Although technically, I could actually get my hands on another black one and a non-Brexit-related blue one.The one I can't get that I would actually like, is another red one, in case the blue-passport disaster goes ahead.
guernseyman
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Following notice last week regarding arrangements for private boat owners visiting French Channel ports in the event of a no-deal BREXIT, French authorities have now advised that vessels planning to call into any marina not designated as a PPF port (Maritime Border Entry Port) have no cause for concern as the following procedure will be adopted.
A yacht should inform the Harbour Master's office by VHF of its arrival. The Harbour Master will then advise the Border Police (PAF) or the Customs authorities as the case may be. These authorities may then decide either to visit the arriving yacht or request those on board to attend the nearest PAF or Customs office to have their passports stamped.
However, a further relaxing of these measures is expected, and it is probable that passports will not be required to be stamped, in which case the information relayed to the Border Police or Customs authorities will be sufficient, and those on board will not need to do anything further.
A yacht should inform the Harbour Master's office by VHF of its arrival. The Harbour Master will then advise the Border Police (PAF) or the Customs authorities as the case may be. These authorities may then decide either to visit the arriving yacht or request those on board to attend the nearest PAF or Customs office to have their passports stamped.
However, a further relaxing of these measures is expected, and it is probable that passports will not be required to be stamped, in which case the information relayed to the Border Police or Customs authorities will be sufficient, and those on board will not need to do anything further.
Boathook
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I hope that our authority's will so the same to those sailing here on their boats.
harry potter
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Baggywrinkle
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Do you have a source for this info? ... as of 11.04.2019 ITV are advising otherwise ...
https://www.itv.com/news/channel/20...changes-to-france-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit/