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Seven Spades said:
Well you know what to do now VOTE Conservative - then you will only get done for using "Grossly excessive force" a little bit of excessive force should be OK.
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Hmemmmm that excludes the use of three phase 415 volts plus a puddle on the cockpit floor!!

at least they didn't get away with anything .. have to put extra securitie What about one of those disorienting alarms so loud that they make their heads rotate

best not to claim on insurance lose of no claims for a couple of years aint worth it .
in 20 years we have had 2 cars stolen variouse house damage amouting over £1000 attems at theft etc and Not once has it been worth claiming :mad: :mad:
 
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LadyInBed said:
I think they are the sort of details best kept to ones self ;)
But it has now proved itself to be an effective one :)
What I will say though is . . . . on second thoughts, no I won't :D

Happy Christmas all
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If you do not wish to publish on the open forum, could you PM me your setup?

I promise not burgle you!

Thanks

TudorSailor
 
tudorsailor said:
If you do not wish to publish on the open forum, could you PM me your setup?

I promise not burgle you!

Thanks

TudorSailor
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Nigel - being an ex poacher, has man traps distrubuted over his decks. These are particularly effective as the victim dives overboard in angony, and of course drowns. Of course if he doesn't drown he will probably sue you, so it is MOST important to make sure they are heavy enough to finish the job

Happy Christmas!
 
It could have been worse!!

Hi Nigel,

Sorry to hear that the Lady has been violated, but pleased to hear she put up a good fight.
I won't give the secrets of your alarm system away as I hope to sail with you again this year.

Happy New Year,

David
 
Hi Nigel

Sorry to hear about your break in, the location is always going to be an issue as you have no body around on a regular basis if you need any help moving the boat or need a hand with the repairs give me a call Ill be around for a while and Im bored rigid.



Ian
 
Our boat is sold and gone so I can safely say what we fitted after our break-in 8 years ago.

We had a PIR alarm on the main bulkhead, one which had an extra extension alarm plugged into it as well. On the basis that only people on nearby boats would hear we mounted both alarms below deck, one was 105db the other 100db and in the confines of the main cabin excruciatingly loud. The extension alarm would go off in it's own right if unplugged or the cable cut. These were standard household units bought from B&Q.

Then we also had a 'shed' or 'rape' alarm mounted in the companionway such that anyone removing the washboards would pull the pin and let this off first, hopefully chasing them off before they even got below. Again this was 100db.

Finally I had a cats cradle of S/S rigging wire in a 'Y' over the mainhatch and with the single lower end padlocked to a safety harness point in the cockpit. A cable alarm was threaded through this lot as well. The idea was to make it difficult for any casual thief and send them elsewhere, it did seem to work as we were left untouched after another visit from the scum a year later when next door boats were done.

Lastly there were proper 'alarm fitted' labels on all hatches and a red LED light fixed to shine a flashing pencil beam across the main companionway, this LED was visible through the dark smoked perspex hatch boards.

I don't think you can stop a determined thief so the idea is just to make it more attractive for them to go elsewhere.

The alarms that call you by phone strike me as in chocolate teapot territory because if you do run off there or call plod (won't go anyway) it will be too late.

Finally our marina had swipe card entry and CCTV coverage to the point where it seemed thieves got in easier than we did. The CCTV is a waste of space as all it shows is when it happened, not which local scumbag is living under the hoodie.
 
Robin said:
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Finally our marina had swipe card entry and CCTV coverage to the point where it seemed thieves got in easier than we did. The CCTV is a waste of space as all it shows is when it happened, not which local scumbag is living under the hoodie.
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That's the big problem really. All the locks & deterrents you fit will always be more trouble to you, the legitimate owner, than any tea leaf - largely because the theives don't give a toss about any damage caused - it ain't their boat.
 
Another vote for a rape alarm.

Cheap, compact, easy to rig when you get off the boat, loud enough to make your ears bleed :D
 
Robin said:
proper 'alarm fitted' labels on all hatches
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The trouble with 'alarm fitted' labels are that they can easily be missed in the dark.
I think I might hang a loose 'alarm fitted' label over the door lock, so it has to be moved to apply the jimmy.

Robin said:
The alarms that call you by phone strike me as in chocolate teapot territory because if you do run off there or call plod (won't go anyway) it will be too late.
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Quite agree, though it does give you a warning that you have to put time aside to go and sort things out.

Re: What's fitted, mine also has a blue strobe light up the mizzen. It is as useful as a fart in a thunderstorm where I am moored, but if the boat was in a cluster close to shore or in a marina it would give a visual indicator.
 
We found that the prevous owner had failed to provide us with the key to one of a number of padlocks left on board our new boat, unfortunately this was the one I selected for the hatch. So on our next visit when we couldn't open the hatch, I had to get the hacksaw out.

Two things shocked me - firstly I only had a junior hacksaw in the car, but it got through what looked like a reasonable quality chunky 'squire' padlock in less than 5 minutes. Having worked as a fitter all my working life I've never known a junior hacksaw to be more effective!

Secondly whilst I was in a boatyard where nobody knew me, hacksawing the companionway hatch padlock in broad daylight, nobody challenged me. Plenty of people looked, but nobody said a thing!
 
A number of years ago in Chi marina, a bloke was asking boat owners for the borrow of a pair of bolt croppers because he 'had left the keys at home in London' and didnt want to leave the electronics on board. Someone obliged.

The owner was not a happy bunny when he arrived aboard the following weekend!
 
:DJust put the boat where only authorised trades people are allowed to work on the boats. The first sign of someone without authorisation wielding a tool will bring hordes of staff to investigate. Must be totally burglarproof! :D
 
Cardiffcruiser said:
We found that the prevous owner had failed to provide us with the key to one of a number of padlocks left on board our new boat, unfortunately this was the one I selected for the hatch. So on our next visit when we couldn't open the hatch, I had to get the hacksaw out.

Two things shocked me - firstly I only had a junior hacksaw in the car, but it got through what looked like a reasonable quality chunky 'squire' padlock in less than 5 minutes. Having worked as a fitter all my working life I've never known a junior hacksaw to be more effective!

Secondly whilst I was in a boatyard where nobody knew me, hacksawing the companionway hatch padlock in broad daylight, nobody challenged me. Plenty of people looked, but nobody said a thing!
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!0 years ago in wells next the sea I forgot our Padlock key took a hacksaw to the padlock at 5 in the morning (3 hour drive to go fetch key)5 mins after starting on the padlock the harbour master with plod in harbour launch arrived at miy side !! actually quite impressed me as I was moored 3/4 mile up a creek and couldnt be seen from harbour office !
 
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