Ric
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The sat links they have wouldn't have the bandwidth to download software.
Vendée Globe 2016-2017
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The sat links they have wouldn't have the bandwidth to download software.
tcm
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Sounds poor, or we haven’t got all the info. Yer ordinary modern handheld sat phone can dowload mucho weather information. Doesn’t he have one (or a few) of those? But is he really saying he needs to download actual software - the programs to interpret data that he could/should have pre-loaded before the start? Not sure....
[70521]
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I beg to differ. If there are uploading high quality video then they should be able to download software.
Kelpie
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I was just reporting what I saw here: http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/news/16369/the-search-for-signal-roura-s-route-explained
Andrew E
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PRB - Vincent Riou has retired due to keel damage - https://twitter.com/Vincent_Riou/status/801082215312621568
adwuk
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Did he hit something? I was wondering about Sebastien Josse, whose average has dropped to 16 knots in the last 30 minutes - eventhough he still appears to be in the breeze.
marktrigg
Active Member
What a shame ... (the leading non-foiler) out :ambivalence:
Do you have any more details ??
(As a non-Twitter person, I couldn't open the link and I couldn't see any information on the Vendee pages)
adwuk
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From here: https://www.facebook.com/notes/vinc...t-riou-contraint-a-labandon/10155096101945288 along with the assistance of google translate.
The skipper of PRB struck an OFNI on Sunday morning (HF) while driving at high speed in the leading group of the Vendée Globe towards the Cape of Good Hope (a shock different and previous to that of yesterday which had raised a saffron). Following this shock, Vincent Riou did not initially detect any damage and was able to continue his normal progress. It was only three hours later that the keel began to resonate and to emit strident and constant noises, witnessing an abnormal effort on the appendix. These noises continued to increase in the night from Sunday to Monday. Given the prevailing weather conditions (25 to 30 knots with speed averages around 19-20 knots), Vincent could not immediately check the keel shaft but was able to warn his team ashore. The PRB team, as well as the ship's architect (Guillaume Verdier) and the HDS design firm GSEA Design (Hervé Devaux and Denis Glehen) then began to study all the hypotheses based on the known elements (mainly the noise emitted by Keel). It was only this morning, evolving under quieter conditions, that Vincent was able to make the necessary checks. He then noticed that the keel pin had been damaged in shock. This titanium piece is an essential part of the boat. It allows to connect the keel to the monocoque by means of a plastic ball joint and it is also this axis that allows the rotation of the keel. In the shock, the plastic ball joint broke, causing permanent friction between the keel pin and the patella support. In the long term, and while the Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean and all the way up the Atlantic still have to be carried out, it means that the integrity of the boat is jeopardized, even if the keel is disconnected from the 60 '. The disappointment is immense in the winner of the Vendée Globe 2004. The one who had seen his dream broken four years ago (almost day by day) on the same shock with an OFNI had left Les Sables d'Olonne on 6 November with the " Want to play the same at the head of the fleet with the new boats equipped with foils. A successful bet since PRB never left the lead group. Long time elbow to elbow with Banque Populaire, Vincent even occupied several times the second place and made an exceptional descent of the Atlantic with his boat drifting. The performance, hailed by many observers, left all hopes for the continuation of this World Tour.
The skipper and PRB currently sail under manageable conditions (14 knots of wind) and Vincent is not in danger. He is in contact with his technical team to decide where he could initially make a stopover to repair his monohull before heading to France, probably in Cape Town in South Africa.
Interview with Vincent Riou: full sound here "Deception is important. But it's like every time, you have to keep living and for me, the rest is to bring my boat safely somewhere on land. The night of Sunday to Monday, I had a small shock on the bulb. The keel is part of the vibratory frequency. She began to wander from one side to the other. It stopped pretty quickly. It did not stop right away because the boat was going at 25 knots when it happened. I did not do more than that. Small shocks on the keel in offshore races, we have regular. This one did not seem very strong to me. Toward the end of the night, I began to hear crackling around the keel. Cracks that I had already heard because I had already had small carbon frictions between the hull and the keel. I said to myself "Hold it rubs a little, it is not very serious". But as time went by, the noise was amplified. I began to ask myself questions, to think about what had happened. I began to consult. (...). We were not very worried but not serene either because it is not an accessible place in the boat. Without removing the keel, we can not see exactly what happened. My approach was to say, "I continue. Either it is a small displacement of the keel and the carbon will wear out under the bottom of hull and the noise will gradually fade. Either it is more serious and inevitably the bearing is damaged and the noise will increase ". I continued to sail for 24 hours. But the noise only increased until yesterday at the end of the day when I began to hear metallic sounds in addition to carbon noises. I understood that the bearing was damaged and the shaft began to touch the bearing cage (...) I contacted the people who worked on this boat. They tried to imagine what could happen. They brought me to the same decision: in the short term, it was not risky because the parts are largely sized but soon enough, this metal-on-metal friction risked more serious damage. It is complicated to embark on a round the world with a damage like this one.
*This morning the weather calmed down after the passage of the front. I was able to open the keel shaft and put my hands inside. I could see that the keel was moving. At the front bearing, the hole is larger than the axis of the keel. This eventually confirmed my fears about the damage to this bearing. I do not know what to think. This damage occurred at about the same time as the damage of four years ago. When I passed Salvador a few days ago, I spent my night thinking about it. As I had passed Salvador, I thought, well, we drove out our demons. And in fact, like four years ago, at the same place, 14 days after the start, there was a collision with irreparable incidences. It's hard ! The easiest for me is to head to South Africa, Cape Town. I'm watching if I can find everything there. We organize ourselves with the team. I think of all those who accompany me and who have followed me from the beginning. I know there were a lot of people behind. I think very strongly of them. I am disappointed by what happens to me but I am also disappointed for them.
Jean-Jacques Laurent, President of PRB: "The abandonment of Vincent is obviously an immense disappointment. He made an incredible race since the start of the Sables d'Olonne in front of the new generation boats. He made us dream. The whole company followed him and accompanied him with passion. Unfortunately, it is once again an OFNI that bar the way. We already knew that four years ago. It is difficult to accept this law of the series. But we are in solidarity with the choice of Vincent who, once again, reacts like a good sailor. The essential thing is to maintain its safety and bring the boat home. In this sense, it makes the best choice possible. "
The skipper of PRB struck an OFNI on Sunday morning (HF) while driving at high speed in the leading group of the Vendée Globe towards the Cape of Good Hope (a shock different and previous to that of yesterday which had raised a saffron). Following this shock, Vincent Riou did not initially detect any damage and was able to continue his normal progress. It was only three hours later that the keel began to resonate and to emit strident and constant noises, witnessing an abnormal effort on the appendix. These noises continued to increase in the night from Sunday to Monday. Given the prevailing weather conditions (25 to 30 knots with speed averages around 19-20 knots), Vincent could not immediately check the keel shaft but was able to warn his team ashore. The PRB team, as well as the ship's architect (Guillaume Verdier) and the HDS design firm GSEA Design (Hervé Devaux and Denis Glehen) then began to study all the hypotheses based on the known elements (mainly the noise emitted by Keel). It was only this morning, evolving under quieter conditions, that Vincent was able to make the necessary checks. He then noticed that the keel pin had been damaged in shock. This titanium piece is an essential part of the boat. It allows to connect the keel to the monocoque by means of a plastic ball joint and it is also this axis that allows the rotation of the keel. In the shock, the plastic ball joint broke, causing permanent friction between the keel pin and the patella support. In the long term, and while the Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean and all the way up the Atlantic still have to be carried out, it means that the integrity of the boat is jeopardized, even if the keel is disconnected from the 60 '. The disappointment is immense in the winner of the Vendée Globe 2004. The one who had seen his dream broken four years ago (almost day by day) on the same shock with an OFNI had left Les Sables d'Olonne on 6 November with the " Want to play the same at the head of the fleet with the new boats equipped with foils. A successful bet since PRB never left the lead group. Long time elbow to elbow with Banque Populaire, Vincent even occupied several times the second place and made an exceptional descent of the Atlantic with his boat drifting. The performance, hailed by many observers, left all hopes for the continuation of this World Tour.
The skipper and PRB currently sail under manageable conditions (14 knots of wind) and Vincent is not in danger. He is in contact with his technical team to decide where he could initially make a stopover to repair his monohull before heading to France, probably in Cape Town in South Africa.
Interview with Vincent Riou: full sound here "Deception is important. But it's like every time, you have to keep living and for me, the rest is to bring my boat safely somewhere on land. The night of Sunday to Monday, I had a small shock on the bulb. The keel is part of the vibratory frequency. She began to wander from one side to the other. It stopped pretty quickly. It did not stop right away because the boat was going at 25 knots when it happened. I did not do more than that. Small shocks on the keel in offshore races, we have regular. This one did not seem very strong to me. Toward the end of the night, I began to hear crackling around the keel. Cracks that I had already heard because I had already had small carbon frictions between the hull and the keel. I said to myself "Hold it rubs a little, it is not very serious". But as time went by, the noise was amplified. I began to ask myself questions, to think about what had happened. I began to consult. (...). We were not very worried but not serene either because it is not an accessible place in the boat. Without removing the keel, we can not see exactly what happened. My approach was to say, "I continue. Either it is a small displacement of the keel and the carbon will wear out under the bottom of hull and the noise will gradually fade. Either it is more serious and inevitably the bearing is damaged and the noise will increase ". I continued to sail for 24 hours. But the noise only increased until yesterday at the end of the day when I began to hear metallic sounds in addition to carbon noises. I understood that the bearing was damaged and the shaft began to touch the bearing cage (...) I contacted the people who worked on this boat. They tried to imagine what could happen. They brought me to the same decision: in the short term, it was not risky because the parts are largely sized but soon enough, this metal-on-metal friction risked more serious damage. It is complicated to embark on a round the world with a damage like this one.
*This morning the weather calmed down after the passage of the front. I was able to open the keel shaft and put my hands inside. I could see that the keel was moving. At the front bearing, the hole is larger than the axis of the keel. This eventually confirmed my fears about the damage to this bearing. I do not know what to think. This damage occurred at about the same time as the damage of four years ago. When I passed Salvador a few days ago, I spent my night thinking about it. As I had passed Salvador, I thought, well, we drove out our demons. And in fact, like four years ago, at the same place, 14 days after the start, there was a collision with irreparable incidences. It's hard ! The easiest for me is to head to South Africa, Cape Town. I'm watching if I can find everything there. We organize ourselves with the team. I think of all those who accompany me and who have followed me from the beginning. I know there were a lot of people behind. I think very strongly of them. I am disappointed by what happens to me but I am also disappointed for them.
Jean-Jacques Laurent, President of PRB: "The abandonment of Vincent is obviously an immense disappointment. He made an incredible race since the start of the Sables d'Olonne in front of the new generation boats. He made us dream. The whole company followed him and accompanied him with passion. Unfortunately, it is once again an OFNI that bar the way. We already knew that four years ago. It is difficult to accept this law of the series. But we are in solidarity with the choice of Vincent who, once again, reacts like a good sailor. The essential thing is to maintain its safety and bring the boat home. In this sense, it makes the best choice possible. "
Andrew E
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He's heading to Cape Town to do hull repairs before returning to France. That'll be a fun winter.
marktrigg
Active Member
@ adwuk ... thank you :encouragement:
mainsail1
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The skipper of PRB struck an OFNI on Sunday morning (HF) while driving at high speed in the leading group of the Vendée Globe towards the Cape of Good Hope
Does anyone know what OFNI stands for?
Does anyone know what OFNI stands for?
Poignard
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Un [FONT="]objet flottant non identifié.[/FONT]
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Great shame. Hope he makes it to Cape Town ok.
Stotty
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Hi Guys... just joined as this seems to be one of the few places on the web where the Vendee is getting discussed!
Sad to see Vincent drop out this afternoon, but also chuffed to see Alex still holding his lead despite losing an appendage... he's lost virtually nothing since the initial hit.
The forecast looks like it's going to start slowing down a bit next few days, and Alex might be able to get on stbd for a while in the lighter winds. After that, who knows. A long way still to go!
Sad to see Vincent drop out this afternoon, but also chuffed to see Alex still holding his lead despite losing an appendage... he's lost virtually nothing since the initial hit.
The forecast looks like it's going to start slowing down a bit next few days, and Alex might be able to get on stbd for a while in the lighter winds. After that, who knows. A long way still to go!
Ric
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I always wonder what the object is. Unfortunately I suspect in most cases the collisions are with whales, which probably don't fare too well after the collision either:-(
Robert Wilson
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Looking at the WindyTY page, AW & Co are about 750nm/36 hrs from CoGH and the stronger winds may be well south into the ice-limit by then. (I think)
Would they go into the ice area? Or are they prevented by race rules?
Would they go into the ice area? Or are they prevented by race rules?
Kelpie
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I remember hearing last time around that they are not allowed to go into the ice zones. Presumably to prevent loss of life following the 1996 Vendee (if you don't know the history, go and read Eric Lundy's book about it, gripping stuff).
geoid96
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From the VG sailing instuctions:
6 EXCLUSION ZONES
A boat that is racing must neither enter nor sail in the exclusion zones set out below.
6.1 The exclusion zones of Finisterre, Cape Roca (Lisbon), Cape Saint Vincent, from the east Canary Islands and west of Mauritania, the coordinates of which are set out in appendix 3. (This changes NOR 2.5).
6.2 The Antarctic Exclusion Zone (AEZ) set out in appendix 3.
6.3 Before the start or during the race, Race Management may determine other zones for safety of the boats, depending on the identification of any safety risks (piracy, for example).
The Antarctic Exclusion Zone (latest version) is defined at: http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/download/33711/
Andrew E
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25 knots 
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mainsail1
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Thanks for that.