Vathy port police warning

[macd]

It is amazing the human race has survived this long as the air we exhale has 4% CO2. How artificial resuscitation works must be a miracle.

As said, the danger threshold s more like 7%. Far from being a sudden process, CO2 poisoning at the levels likely to be found in nature is actually a slow decent though various levels of functional impairment. Critically for mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, the body responds to elevated levels of CO2 with a heightened breathing response, which is, of course, rather helpful. (The rising urge to breathe when you hold your breath is not due to a shortage of oxygen, as you might expect, but to increased levels of CO2. )

 

[maxi77]

As said, the danger threshold s more like 7%. Far from being a sudden process, CO2 poisoning at the levels likely to be found in nature is actually a slow decent though various levels of functional impairment. Critically for mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, the body responds to elevated levels of CO2 with a heightened breathing response, which is, of course, rather helpful. (The rising urge to breathe when you hold your breath is not due to a shortage of oxygen, as you might expect, but to increased levels of CO2. )

Having lived with elevated CO2 levels (I was a diesel submariner) yes you start to get sleepy first with constant yawning. In the time you would be involved in fire fighting in a yacht locally high levels probably would not cause that much of a problem. At atmospheric pressure CO2 tends to put you to sleep, but at say 2 atmospheres it becomes poisonous, all to do with something called partial pressures.

Personally I prefer foam extinguishers less mess, more likely to work than powder and better on oil and diesel. and the right kind is OK for mains electric fires.

 

[Seven Spades]

If you want to hear a harrowing story about CO2 listen to this weeks episode of Radio Lab, Dark Side of the Earth.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/dark-side-earth

 

[Davy_S]

Polish-flagged sailing yacht EM 10 detained in Vathy, Ithaka, yesterday due to being hired out on an illegal charter at a cost of 3,762 Polish Zloty (around 880€). Charter allegedly started out from Poros on 11/05/18 and due to terminate in Piraeus 18/05/18.

 

[t21]

um, so far sounds like they're doing quite a good job?...

 

[dslittle]

Methinks Mats back under another name

Funny that, I was just thinking the same!!!

 

[Davy_S]

Argostoli Coast Guard impounded the Russian flagged sailing yacht Sweet Aloha on Monday due to illegal charter.

 

[Heckler]

Funny that, I was just thinking the same!!!

Mat?

 

[RobbieW]

Mat?

tcm

 

[Davy_S]

Ithaki coast guard keeping busy: yesterday afternoon a routine check on the sailing yacht ΒΛΑΣΣΗΣ in Vathi port revealed that its Lefkas-based owners had chartered it out from from Agia Efimia for the period 20 May - 03 June for the declared sum of £1,000 whereas the hirer had paid £2,850 for the charter.

 

[Seven Spades]

Are the port police investigating income tax fraud?

 

[t21]

Methinks Mats back under another name

rumbled...

 

[charles_reed]

Greek fire extinguishers have to be checked and certified every year. It costs €8. Likewise liferaft certification has a 1 year life, Port Police are generally quite helpful (in the Aegean at least) and do not attempt to impose Greek safety equipment requirements on foreign-flagged yachts.
Declaring a Pan-Pan (which would include informing the Limeninkas Soma of any problem) will nearly always result in an official impounding until an official release as seaworthy is issued by a Greek-registered marine surveyor.
One doesn't have to be towed in by another vessel to fall foul of this.
"Let sleeping dogs lie"

 

[grafozz]

Here, s another VPP target ,
there won,t be any room in Vathy soon , it will be full of impounded boats !

Detention for detention of I / C vessels in Ithaca
Coast Guard Update

 

[Davy_S]

GB-flagged sailing yacht UsailOne detained in Fiskardo harbour yesterday afternoon due to illegal charter for the period 27/05/18 - 01/06/18. Allegedly five foreign nationals picked the boat up in Levkas marina on Sunday having paid £2,343 each for the six day hire.

 

[nickf]

£2343 EACH !!! Must have been some boat.

 

[Davy_S]

Ithaki coast guard being kept busy: the Swiss flagged Rose sailing yacht detained yesterday afternoon in Vathi for illegal charter. Apparently one of the two crew paid 1,000 CHF (Swiss francs / approx 850€) for the period 31/05/18-04/06/18.

 

[Pasarell]

Got back to the boat in Lefkas last night after 4 weeks away. All the talk is of the checks being made on safety equipment and illegal charter. USail as mentioned above is apparently facing a very large fine. Equipment checks are focussed mainly on fire extinguishers but also looking at flares and liferafts. Word is the Lefkas PP are insisting on a basic flare pack for every boat.
I don't know if it's connected but apparently the marina management closed the entrance last week for a few hours on a charter change over day because of the chaos with boats coming in. Insisted the charter companies put a skipper on every boat to moor it - which can only be a good thing! This morning a big chartered cat was leaving from close to me and hit the first private boat he was trying to pass. One of the company staff jumped on board, roughly shoved the helmsman out of the way, and put the boat back on its berth. The followed a robust discussion and the boat left an hour later with someone from the company helming. No idea how long he stayed there but maybe there is a standard raising exercise going on. Good thing if there is!

 

[sailaboutvic]

Got back to the boat in Lefkas last night after 4 weeks away. All the talk is of the checks being made on safety equipment and illegal charter. USail as mentioned above is apparently facing a very large fine. Equipment checks are focussed mainly on fire extinguishers but also looking at flares and liferafts. Word is the Lefkas PP are insisting on a basic flare pack for every boat.
I don't know if it's connected but apparently the marina management closed the entrance last week for a few hours on a charter change over day because of the chaos with boats coming in. Insisted the charter companies put a skipper on every boat to moor it - which can only be a good thing! This morning a big chartered cat was leaving from close to me and hit the first private boat he was trying to pass. One of the company staff jumped on board, roughly shoved the helmsman out of the way, and put the boat back on its berth. The followed a robust discussion and the boat left an hour later with someone from the company helming. No idea how long he stayed there but maybe there is a standard raising exercise going on. Good thing if there is!

It really about time that the charter market is policed , for years an blind eye been taken on charter boats , letting charter company get away with all sort of stuff , let alone al the private guys doing chartering under the table .
Also putting a stop to large boats with in some cases very novices sailors charting them .
If a charter company feel they need to put a skipper on a boat to get it safety in and out of a Marina then tho skippers shouldn't be in charge of that boat in the first place .
And before people say , Marina can be difficult to leave and enter , so can packed harbours without taken in an account cross winds , people not mooring straight , and tight spots , and where are the company skipper then to jump aboard and help .
Once again in the sort time we where in the Ionian this year We had two charter boat drag into us in very light winds and one that in the end I had to go on board to help him in as he had no idea how to handle it , it turned out he did a ICC just before he chartered and his boat back in the U.K. Was a 18 foot sailing boat he keeps on the broads , he chartered an 45 ' with another couple who never been on a boat in their life's .

 

[jordanbasset]

Have been trying to find out what this is about by asking around, especially as regards fire extinguishers/flares. Cannot find any one with first hand experience of it but from the second hand accounts it appears the checks are in relation to charter boats and their equipment, not private boats. As Vic says it is good that they are being monitored, as they would be in the UK.
It would be interesting if any one who has a private boat has been checked for this equipment by the Port Police.