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Hi All,

Currently have my Targa 40 up for sale with some interest so started looking for the next boat. Dream boat would be Targa 52 Hardtop but realistically out of my budget unless I can find one dirt cheap. Place of use would be the Netherlands. Probably looking to purchase in the med if nothing pops up locally at an acceptable price.

Looking for your opinions and comments good/bad on the below shortlist:

Targa 48: best budget choice but was not on my list due to model age and quite narrow for lenth. Broker I met was quite a fan as easy to resell, quieter than the T52, needed smaller engines for similar speed. Strikly speaking would tick all the boxes for less money.
Targa 52: was/is my favorite. bit wider than the 48, trusted D12's, good layout, not wild about the rear end design, radar arch for some reason feels a little dated, worried a bit about the big sound of the D12's, like the easy engine access as I am quite hands on.
Cranchi 50: new to my as have always been sold on Brit boats. Not wild about all the italian styling and curves in the seating and moldings. However did seem to be quite clever on access to mechanical, electrical components, engine access etc, underwater exhausts, is quite light so worried whether hull strenth and ride quality is anywhere close to Fairline/Princess. HT version a bit cheaper than the T52 HT. D12's. Test report seems good but difficult to know if biased or not. Hate the silly staircase down to the saloon.
Princess V55: got the 3 cabins I need, loads of room, nice big swim platform but quite a bit longer than the Targa so more mooring costs etc. Also above 15m berthing options are reduced when cruising. On the plus easier to find and seem to be cheaper than the Targa 52. Can anyone comment on the ride quality and top speeds of the V55 as I cannot seem to find a good test report.
Astondoa 53: bit of a different beast. quite like the look and the cockpit layout but seems a bit strange inside. occasionally a low priced one appears. Don't really know the builder so have no idea about the quality.
Like the Princess V50 but missing the extra cabin.

On engines have listened to volvopaul so D12 are firm favorites. Fuel consumption is less of an issue as cruising hours are low but do want to avoid engines that have more potential to go bang as the repair numbers on these big engines are scary. Want to move to shaft drive as I will be keeping the boat in the water all year round.

rlw.
 
I used to own a Targa 48 about 14yrs ago. Excellent sea boat but in other respects I wasnt overenamoured with mine. Build quality a bit questionable, some poor quality components and a ludicrously large canopy which used to take me half an hour to erect. Tender garage also only capable of housing a 2.8m inflatable floor RIB. Personally I'd be looking at something different
 
If I could I would go for T52 in your list. Also in my experience build and apparent quality on Fairline's did improve a lot from 2003 onward.
Targa 48 is a bit of a chine walker and better to be with Volvo's 480hp. The Targa 52 is a better sea boat to the 48 but price is double.
I like the design (outside looks) of the Astondoa 53. Astondoa is a big builder and they build boats up to 150 feet.
Cranchi 50 is not a bad boat needs to be with Volvos D12 as available in newer models in my book.
Princess V55 moves to much water and is a light boat for its length, with Man 800s they not a bad boat though. Her aft deck is one of the best in the category for layout and size and time of build.
I'd imagine your budget to be at 250k EUROS plus or minus.
If you could would look for a Pershing 52, tight in that budget but the quality and seakeeping is a step above all the boats mentioned above. It has surface drives which gives better liter per mile conversion.
Another boat to look would be a Rizzardi 50 Topline. Brilliant boat...
 
I was looking for very similar, then fell in love with the lines of the Azimuts. It's straying from the UK brands (which I too was set on initially), but maybe any boat with a flybridge is out for you... and of course the styling doesn't appeal to all. One year on and I'm loving mine.
 
rlw said:
Hi All,

Currently have my Targa 40 up for sale with some interest so started looking for the next boat. Dream boat would be Targa 52 Hardtop but realistically out of my budget unless I can find one dirt cheap. Place of use would be the Netherlands. Probably looking to purchase in the med if nothing pops up locally at an acceptable price.

Looking for your opinions and comments good/bad on the below shortlist:

Targa 48: best budget choice but was not on my list due to model age and quite narrow for lenth. Broker I met was quite a fan as easy to resell, quieter than the T52, needed smaller engines for similar speed. Strikly speaking would tick all the boxes for less money.
Targa 52: was/is my favorite. bit wider than the 48, trusted D12's, good layout, not wild about the rear end design, radar arch for some reason feels a little dated, worried a bit about the big sound of the D12's, like the easy engine access as I am quite hands on.
Cranchi 50: new to my as have always been sold on Brit boats. Not wild about all the italian styling and curves in the seating and moldings. However did seem to be quite clever on access to mechanical, electrical components, engine access etc, underwater exhausts, is quite light so worried whether hull strenth and ride quality is anywhere close to Fairline/Princess. HT version a bit cheaper than the T52 HT. D12's. Test report seems good but difficult to know if biased or not. Hate the silly staircase down to the saloon.
Princess V55: got the 3 cabins I need, loads of room, nice big swim platform but quite a bit longer than the Targa so more mooring costs etc. Also above 15m berthing options are reduced when cruising. On the plus easier to find and seem to be cheaper than the Targa 52. Can anyone comment on the ride quality and top speeds of the V55 as I cannot seem to find a good test report.
Astondoa 53: bit of a different beast. quite like the look and the cockpit layout but seems a bit strange inside. occasionally a low priced one appears. Don't really know the builder so have no idea about the quality.
Like the Princess V50 but missing the extra cabin.

On engines have listened to volvopaul so D12 are firm favorites. Fuel consumption is less of an issue as cruising hours are low but do want to avoid engines that have more potential to go bang as the repair numbers on these big engines are scary. Want to move to shaft drive as I will be keeping the boat in the water all year round.

rlw.
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I had a similar problem but ended up opting for a 2002 Targa 52Mk 2, absolutely love it , a lot quieter than the hard top running, lots of space , I leave the main canvas top up to provide shade but everything else is dead easy to take off . I agree the V50 is lovely but only two cabins.
 
The T52 is a lovely boat, and i would think would be available for a decent price ( there were some cheap ones when i was looking).

Do bear in mind that the rear sun pads are 100% spot on for the med but in more northern climes (Netherlands) I would think are not ideal.
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
If you could would look for a Pershing 52, tight in that budget but the quality and seakeeping is a step above all the boats mentioned above. It has surface drives which gives better liter per mile conversion.
Another boat to look would be a Rizzardi 50 Topline. Brilliant boat...
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LOL, careful W, by suggesting that build quality and seakeeping of these boats is superior to FL and Princess best efforts, you risk being crucified... :rolleyes:
...but since you started uncorking alternatives, I think the OP could do worse than considering also Sarnico 50 and DP 48/50! :cool:
 
We have owned a T52 since may after a T43. It’s a 2005 and one of the last open tops as previously mentioned the closed top ones are noisey by comparison. Really pleased with the added space and it just feels much bigger and with the d12,s it certainly doesn’t hang about if you need to be somewhere
 
MapisM said:
LOL, careful W, by suggesting that build quality and seakeeping of these boats is superior to FL and Princess best efforts, you risk being crucified... :rolleyes:
...but since you started uncorking alternatives, I think the OP could do worse than considering also Sarnico 50 and DP 48/50! :cool:
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LOL I get worse then Jesus for telling the truth about a plastic hobby. Times are indeed rough....

Yes DP 48/50 is another good one and Sarnico 50 would top my list if I wanted a hard top. I think you need 300 for the Sarnico and 220-240 for the DP48 so they are a bit off budget.
I know you can get Rizzardi's 50 for 160-180 give or take.
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
I know you can get Rizzardi's 50 for 160-180 give or take.
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Well, I didn't consider market prices. Amazing differences, anyway.
Unless I'm missing some reasons behind them, the Rizzardi seems indeed a great choice, for anyone interested in this type of boats.
 
MapisM said:
Well, I didn't consider market prices. Amazing differences, anyway.

Age plays a big difference. Rizzardi 50 Topline was launched in 2000 (they produced about four that first year).
The Dalla Pieta 48 was also launched a year earlier in 1999 but it is hard to find the old ones nowadays, and the first versions where also fully open tops.
Also Dalla Pieta up until 2003 was producing like 4-6 boats a year. Older versions also sell similar price to Rizzardi if you manage to find one.
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Thanks All,

The Targa 52 was my safe choice. What kind of real life top speed can I expect with the Targa 52 of 10+ years?
Came across the Dalla Pieta and the Rizardi which are interesting boats but worried about the resale value further down the line.
On the sunpad I always thought it would be a wasted space but every time I need to be in the T40's garage I have to chase people off or remove stuf dumped on. With kids on board it provides an extra space even in the rain. Perfect for lounging about glued to a tablet :)

Thank you for the feedback. Now back to the hunt :)

Rob
 
With a dirty bum and half fuel etc expect about 32kts , only the last section of the sunpad lifts up so it really is no problem at all . Fairline made beautiful boats back in those days and I’m really a Princess man !
 
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